I have a local B&M that I purchased what I thought was an unbanded house brand in a 5x50 size vitola. It was a decent smoke that was fairly mild, but had some complexity to it. I went back to grab a couple more a few weeks later and ask them about them. He claimed they were Ashton seconds/rejects. Don't know if they were, but at $4 a pop, it's not a bad smoke....