Why You Need to Cellar Tobacco

I've possibly smoked as much aged (and super-aged) tobacco as anyone but I don't give a whit about ageing and yet I've been buying tobacco like it's going out of style. It IS going out of style. What are the reasons that you need to cellar tobacco. Your input is solicited.

1. Quality.
2. Taxation.
3. Price increases.
4. Availability.
5. Investment.

1 - The quality of leaf available for pipe tobaccos has been in decline for many years. Traditional sources have evaporated. Fewer acres dedicated to growing leaf suitable for pipe tobacco. Blenders are dong wonderful things but there will be a point when they can't make a purse out of a sow's ear.

2 - Taxation is already here and will only go up. It's not about saving you, or kids, it's about trying to balance budgets, period.

3 - Price increases are inevitable, even if taxes don't increase.

4 - Some states have already created legislation against shipping tobacco into the state. It's probable that this legislation will spread and doubtful that it will be repealed.

5 - There is a growing market for older tobacco.

Add up all the benefits to buying tobacco now and storing it and you realize that it's a prudent move. Tins cost more but will sell more readily but bulk will have residual value as well. If you smoke it and like it then you should be storing it to the best of your means.

Yeah, you can age the stuff if you like.

When I move back to the states I will hit the proverbial ground firing on all cylinders. Living in Japan for all these years has made it difficult to say the least for TAD. I will absolutely be taking that free shipping that many sites offer and this thread will be my Declaration of Acquisition.

I think the near certainty of tax increases is the most compelling reason to stock up. As pipe smokers, we've been lucky that our tobacco is not taxed as heavily as cigarette tobacco, but that won't last. I've never been one to buy bulk tobacco and cellar it, almost all my tobacco is in tins. But with the noises coming out of the various state legislatures around the country, I'm giving serious thought to laying a few pounds of my favorites aside and stocking up on tubs of Carter Hall.

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Originally Posted by MrMotoyoshi

When I move back to the states I will hit the proverbial ground firing on all cylinders. Living in Japan for all these years has made it difficult to say the least for TAD. I will absolutely be taking that free shipping that many sites offer and this thread will be my Declaration of Acquisition.

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Another DOA (Declaration of Acquisition)

Taxes, Taxes, Taxes, and it taste way better when well aged!

It's all about getting it while you still can to me.

Before you know it, getting anything will be close to impossible.

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Originally Posted by johnnyflake

Taxes, Taxes, Taxes, and it taste way better when well aged!

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Hey Johnny,

The sealer's working great. The bags from WebRestaurantStore are working fine but time will tell how well the seals keep but for now it's looking good, thanks.

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Originally Posted by NeverBend

Hey Johnny,

The sealer's working great. The bags from WebRestaurantStore are working fine but time will tell how well the seals keep but for now it's looking good, thanks.

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Good News!

If the bags have sealed nicely, you should never have a problem in the future. However, If you have any serious concerns, you can double seal each bag by manually placing the bag on the sealing/heating element, about a 1/4" forward of the original seal and then just use the sealing feature to create a second seal, about a 1/4" from the 1st seal.

There have been several "shots across the bow" aimed at pipe smokers. Tax increases, laws against public smoking, the list goes on. Good reasons to stock the larder.

Yet, I really started aging to take the perceived edge off of a tobacco I liked. MacBaren Vanilla flake had a bit of a sharpness that settled down with a few years of aging. Now, I do it for all of my tins.

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Originally Posted by johnnyflake

Good News!

If the bags have sealed nicely, you should never have a problem in the future. However, If you have any serious concerns, you can double seal each bag by manually placing the bag on the sealing/heating element, about a 1/4" forward of the original seal and then just use the sealing feature to create a second seal, about a 1/4" from the 1st seal.

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Hi Johnny,

I'm sealing some with vacuum and some without based on how moist they are going in and time before expected use.. Thanks for the tip on the double sealing. The Nesco machine seems to work great and I'll buy the jar attachment (same as Food Saver I believe) for masons. I'm indebted to you and I'll let you know anything of note but I'll be happy to live long enough to make any meaningful discoveries.

When you retire you can smoke your cellar and not have to use medication dollars on tobacco. :)

:tan:

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Originally Posted by NeverBend

1 - The quality of leaf available for pipe tobaccos has been in decline for many years. Traditional sources have evaporated. Fewer acres dedicated to growing leaf suitable for pipe tobacco. Blenders are dong wonderful things but there will be a point when they can't make a purse out of a sow's ear.

2 - Taxation is already here and will only go up. It's not about saving you, or kids, it's about trying to balance budgets, period.

3 - Price increases are inevitable, even if taxes don't increase.

4 - Some states have already created legislation against shipping tobacco into the state. It's probable that this legislation will spread and doubtful that it will be repealed.

5 - There is a growing market for older tobacco.

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6 - That smirk you get on your face whenever you look at your stash.

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Originally Posted by mooster

6 - That smirk you get on your face whenever you look at your stash.

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^^^ There it is!

I'm not cellaring, I'm hoarding.
I figure it's going to be more useful than beanie babies.

I like not having to figure tobacco into my weekly or monthly budgeting. When I need some, I just go downstairs.

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Originally Posted by Branzig

It's all about getting it while you still can to me.

Before you know it, getting anything will be close to impossible.

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This for me as well... You never know. Will it be illegal to purchase tobacco in 5 years, 10 years, 20????? Stock up while you can!

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Originally Posted by Frankenstein

This for me as well... You never know. Will it be illegal to purchase tobacco in 5 years, 10 years, 20????? Stock up while you can!

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I'm personally not afraid of the total ban of tobacco sales...I think there is too much tax revenue there for them to do that; of course marijuana will become a better cash crop over the next 10-15 years and will be a huge tax income all its own, so who knows.

I am more worried about the control and shutting down of internet commerce.

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Originally Posted by Branzig

I'm personally not afraid of the total ban of tobacco sales...I think there is too much tax revenue there for them to do that; of course marijuana will become a better cash crop over the next 10-15 years and will be a huge tax income all its own, so who knows.

I am more worried about the control and shutting down of internet commerce.

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I wouldn't worry about it being shut down, it's way too big, but they dam sure will figure a way to TAX it! There is the real problem, as taxes will be high, very high!!!