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So I lit up a tatuaje Miami recently gifted to me and more than once I've had nasty lighter fluid taste pop up in the stick. 3 or 4 times already and I'm about halfway done. I can't believe this is the normal flavor profile of this stick. Any reason or idea why this may be happening?
Ammonia?
Your palate is fried after 22lbs of sticks? :indecisiveness: lol
I would have to go with this...Quote:
Originally Posted by Billb1960
Perhaps it's aftertaste from that pizza you split with @Horseshoe ?
Hey! I resent that. I did not split said pizza, I would never eat a phallus shaped anything!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tobias Lutz
I say it was due to user error, regardless of what @DogRockets signature states.
Perhaps he ate the elongated portion, leaving you with sausage boobs?Quote:
Originally Posted by Horseshoe
If it is or was ammonia what does that mean? That there was ammonia on the tobacco itself? Or since I got this cigar from @Horseshoe that he rubbed it on there before giving it to me? Once again it is all Horseshoe s fault.
Ammonia is one of the byproducts of tobacco fermentation. This is commonly called the "sick period" for cigars. It's not common on NC sticks but it can happen.
Interesting. Yeah, this cigar was definetly a let down for me to be sure. I've got to imagine this wasn't a normal Tatuaje Miami stick. This was my first Tat Miami and it was my only one so I won't be able to compare. I can't ever recall having that happen with a cigar I smoked before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billb1960
This happened with a Cohiba Red Dot to me awhile ago and I was ANGRY at the cigar, haha!Quote:
Originally Posted by DogRockets
I've always thought of Pizza as the perfect dish, you make as healthy or unhealthy as you like it! The Ammonia was courtesy of the Tobacco Gods seems they're fond of Pizza too! Or used to be. Apparently they're not sword swallowers.
You can try purging it, sometime that will help alot with off flavors
Tar maybe?
Nail on the head.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billb1960
It could be(and probably is) the cigar itself being in the sick period or it could be the storage conditions(not enough fresh air flow). If you get it with other sticks stored along-side it, try airing them out for an hour...then close the humidor up and do it again every few days until it's gone(pay attention to RH% throughout). It shouldn't effect the long-term smoke-ability of the cigars because it's natural to the fermentation process.
Yeah, my understanding is that this is why the producers age their tobacco for so long, and for months after the cigars have been rolled, in order for the ammonia to dissipate.
Maybe Horseshoe knows how long he had it resting in his humidor?
This had a tar issue as well - first time I've ever had that as well. I had to wipe it down and clip more off the head.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueDevil07
I have had it for 3 months and I was told it was from early 2014 when I bought it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeede
@DogRockets , I am truely sorry it was a disappointment, though what you should know is you actually just smoked a Ron Mexico. Not really, it is hard to find a 7.6" cigar to play that joke. But it is lame as I know how much you were looking forward to that stick.
No worries at all @Horseshoe - not your fault of course. Unless you really did swith the band with a CI Po'Boy!Quote:
Originally Posted by Horseshoe
Not really. They age the tobacco for so long because that's how long it takes to develop the flavor profiles desired. The ammonia is a simple by product of the breakdown of hydrocarbons as the tobacco ages, and is the reason sticks you are aging should be rotated and turned and the humi opened to the air every so often.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeede
Tar is always a symptom of too much heat and moisture: it is produced by the heating of of organic matter in the absence of oxygen. So this stick could have been over humidified, and/or it was burning too hot, causing excessive heating of the tobacco behind the foot leading to pyrolysis.Quote:
This had a tar issue as well - first time I've ever had that as well. I had to wipe it down and clip more off the head.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrolysis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrous_pyrolysis
If you want to do a nasty experiment, try getting a stick up to about 80rh or higher for a while and then light it up. Not only will it likely be a tight draw, it will therefore cause you to puff harder/more frequently causing excessive heat...watch that tar flow!