El Cheapos

I've found that I've fallen in a bit deeper into this and so finding a box that would ship for <$100 may not be cheap enough. Liking Avo Classics and finding CAO Golds comparable, but not cheap enough I'm on the hunt again but wanting something <$2.50 a piece.

I had tried Backwoods way back when and thought they were OK, though I hadn't ever had a real cigar. I bought some the other day and found that I just don't care for them at all.

Looking around in the under $2 section at CI I see I can go with a cheaper cigar (I like a Robusto) or I could even go with some sort of cigarillo, which seems appealing in its own way. I figure I'll order up some CAO Gold Karats as I like their Robusto, but I'd also like some opinions on mild to medium cigars and cigarillos that aren't machine made. I'd prefer to have the option of buying a small bundle to ensure that I do enjoy them, but also as I don't have storage for too much more than about 30 standard cigars at the moment.

I'm not keen on whether or not short-filler really detracts from the smoke. What is the shortcomings of it?

http://www.cigarsinternational.com/specials/1-day-deal/

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Originally Posted by Billb1960

http://www.cigarsinternational.com/specials/1-day-deal/

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Get four and some change right there!

Wow! That seems like a steal! What would their typical price as I blew my hobby funds and don't have the room at the moment anyway. Next month's hobby funds will be spent on beer brewing ingredients as its been a few months now and I've been itching to brew up another ESB!

I think that's their normal price they just put them on the 1 day deal to move some stock.

I've got a handful of Nicaraguan 2nd's I got from the devils site for just under 2 bucks a smoke. They are supposedly from the Oliva brand, pretty decent for the price.

Estd. 1844....right at 2.50, but worth it. (particularly with a little rest)

They list these as medium-full, but I think they're medium (and I don't do nicotine bombs, btw)

http://www.cigarsinternational.com/cigars/66942/sosa/

Robusto for $2 a stick. They are quite pleasant for the price.

I'd just go bottom-feeding for singles and 5-packs on the devil site. I recently got Torano 1916, Oliva connies, Sosa Classic (Fuente made), Cabaiguan petites, and a bunch of other stuff for around that price. The only time I've gone over $2 a stick was $11 for a 5-er. It's been a good couple of weeks.... But of course it all added up to a shocking total. :jaw:

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Originally Posted by c.ortiz108

I'd just go bottom-feeding for singles and 5-packs on the devil site. I recently got Torano 1916, Oliva connies, Sosa Classic (Fuente made), Cabaiguan petites, and a bunch of other stuff for around that price. The only time I've gone over $2 a stick was $11 for a 5-er. It's been a good couple of weeks.... But of course it all added up to a shocking total. :jaw:

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You forgot to mention the brown bag....

the AB seconds on the devils site are a good buy n that price range.

Bahia Gold White Label! $40 for a box of 20, and a great stick.

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Originally Posted by Billb1960

http://www.cigarsinternational.com/specials/1-day-deal/

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Dang...that's cheaper than a crack heads opinion! Just read a couple of customer's reviews. While not glowing reviews, a long way from pure crap....???
http://www.cigarsinternational.com/cigars/82292/amati/

I disregarded any cigarillos under 30 ring. Isn't it generally better the larger diameter they are?

Here are some that I noticed:
La Aurora Principes
Victor Sinclair cigarillos
Macanudo Cafe & Maduro Ascot/Ascot Maduro
Arturo Fuente Breva Royale, Cubanitos, Curlyhead, and Exquisitos
CAO Gold Karats
Cohiba Red Dot Pequenos
Macanudo Gold Label Ascot and Court
Havana Classico Pequenos

Anyone try any of these?

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Originally Posted by rodwha

I disregarded any cigarillos under 30 ring. Isn't it generally better the larger diameter they are?

Here are some that I noticed:
La Aurora Principes
Victor Sinclair cigarillos
Macanudo Cafe & Maduro Ascot/Ascot Maduro
Arturo Fuente Breva Royale, Cubanitos, Curlyhead, and Exquisitos
CAO Gold Karats
Cohiba Red Dot Pequenos
Macanudo Gold Label Ascot and Court
Havana Classico Pequenos

Anyone try any of these?

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Check these out. Billb1960 sent me a few of these and I enjoyed them while out dove hunting...
http://www.cigarsinternational.com/c...inos-corojito/

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Originally Posted by rodwha

I disregarded any cigarillos under 30 ring. Isn't it generally better the larger diameter they are?

Here are some that I noticed:
La Aurora Principes
Curlyhead
Anyone try any of these?

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The principes are a decent smoke from what i recall. been a few years since i had any, ymmv

if you go curlyhead, i would suggest spend the little bit extra & get the curlyead deluxe.made from leftovers of their pricy sticks & pretty damn tasty, especially with a little rest

Casa de Garcia natural are quite good for a cheap bundle cigar, although smoke output is a little thin, in case that's not your thing.
I also like the maduro, but I don't think it falls into what you are looking for. it's sad, my B&M sells them for about $6 a stick... (I get to pay the exorbitant Canadian tobacco taxes. But CI has them for 27.50 for a bundle of 20. I buy these from him because I just can't justify paying for the higher end, CC's when I go on vacation each year and can buy from the source. just as an example... AB MAXX are going for about 16$ a stick... same for RASS... :( sorry got sidetracked by the taxes...

Bruck's list of good cheapies (all of which can be had for $2+/- if you watch for sales):

Cabo Classic
Gurkha Park Avenue
Nica Libre
5 Vegas Gold
Schizo
Bahia Red
Bahia Blue
John Bull
Graycliff G2
5 Vegas classic
Buenaventura
Bahia Trinidad
5 Vegas A

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Originally Posted by WNYTONY

You forgot to mention the brown bag....

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Yes, and I wish I could forget it permanently - the 40 cent special :doublepuke: That reminds me, isn't there some kind of bomb WNYTONY contest going on right now? :rolleyes:

I'd suggest trying Est. 1844 and Black Ops. These are a couple of my favorite everyday smokes. They're pretty damn good and won't break the bank. They're both pretty good ROTT, but get even better with age.

CI MISTAKES are rather good mild sticks, great with a cup of coffee in the morning, only a $1.75 each.

I also like Flor de Oliva Corojo as an everyday smoke, only $2.00 each.

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Originally Posted by c.ortiz108

Yes, and I wish I could forget it permanently - the 40 cent special :doublepuke: That reminds me, isn't there some kind of bomb WNYTONY contest going on right now? :rolleyes:

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I used to like you

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Originally Posted by rodwha

I'm not keen on whether or not short-filler really detracts from the smoke. What is the shortcomings of it?

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Originally Posted by rodwha

I disregarded any cigarillos under 30 ring. Isn't it generally better the larger diameter they are?

Here are some that I noticed:
La Aurora Principes
Curlyhead, and Exquisitos

Anyone try any of these?

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IMO, the only 'loss' you experience is the changing nuances of flavor you would normally experience in a long-fill stick. The taste you have is the taste you get, from start to nub. The pluses are numerous, with generally lesser cost being but one of them. (DE's Papas Fritas being a glaring exception, LOL). I never experience draw issues, except where a stick may be a bit too loosely packed. However, instead of hurting your lungs, it just requires less effort to keep it from burning faster. Never really encounter tunneling or canoeing, either. CI's Rocky Patel Fumas are the recent exception, which have provided me some burn consternation.

Other than Fumas, my most recent CI discovery is Villiger's medium-bodied BOLD, also available in a more mild connecticut wrapper. This is becoming one of my absolute favorites. Don Seville's are exceptionally mild and tasty, and have some very good factory packaging to ensure freshness until you decide on a humidor set-up you like. Asylum's Schizo brand is a winner, also..with a hint of spice on an otherwise mild blend. Cuban Delights natural (non-infused) are on my list, also. They also are blowing out something called the Don Jesus Corona Grande. Ugly, and loosely packed...I can't argue with the taste for 50c a stick! Great morning smoke.

I've also tried CI's Leonida's, Tiburoun Tiger Shark, PNR Fumas Petite Corona, and La Aurora Principes. I didn't care for those. I think it may have been the type of HTL binders used. It adds a tinge to the flavor I don't care for. I have no HTL bias, because Newman's Mexican Segundos is an absolute fave of mine, along with Marsh Wheelings(neither carried by CI).

I believe you could try the Principes with less risk by ordering a fiver through Famous Smoke, first. Hope that is some good direction to get you stared on cut-filler bundles.

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Originally Posted by Tobias Lutz

Estd. 1844....right at 2.50, but worth it. (particularly with a little rest)

They list these as medium-full, but I think they're medium (and I don't do nicotine bombs, btw)

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you don't say?

was able to get a box of no. 50s for a ridiculous price on devil--caught everyone napping. The box was dated last year...

Let's just say this is the best $1.25 cigar I've ever had lol.

Some others you might want to take a look at

Oba Oba by Perdomo
Mister B
Consuegra

I have only had the Consuegra (good smoke for the price) , but have seen that other guys really like the two other brands very much.


Edit: Forgot to add - Old Fashioned cigars also

Victor Sinclair Triple Corojos are surprisingly good for the price.

@SweetCigars bombed me with a Flor De Oliva torpedo that can be had for $2/stick. It was quite good for the price.

Benchmade by Ashton, made by Pepin. Supposed to be good.

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Originally Posted by rodwha

I've found that I've fallen in a bit deeper into this and so finding a box that would ship for <$100 may not be cheap enough. Liking Avo Classics and finding CAO Golds comparable, but not cheap enough I'm on the hunt again but wanting something <$2.50 a piece.

I had tried Backwoods way back when and thought they were OK, though I hadn't ever had a real cigar. I bought some the other day and found that I just don't care for them at all.

Looking around in the under $2 section at CI I see I can go with a cheaper cigar (I like a Robusto) or I could even go with some sort of cigarillo, which seems appealing in its own way. I figure I'll order up some CAO Gold Karats as I like their Robusto, but I'd also like some opinions on mild to medium cigars and cigarillos that aren't machine made. I'd prefer to have the option of buying a small bundle to ensure that I do enjoy them, but also as I don't have storage for too much more than about 30 standard cigars at the moment.

I'm not keen on whether or not short-filler really detracts from the smoke. What is the shortcomings of it?

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You, sir, want to be lookin' at Casa De Garcia. Nicaraguan, maduro, Sumatra, and Connecticut options, all DIRT CHEAP. Like $25 for 20 cheap. I would be wrong not to recommend JR alternatives as well.

Thanks for all of these suggestions fellas! I'm thinking next month that I'll be sampling many of these to find an El Cheapo to keep stocked around here.

With so many suggestions I may be back asking for help narrowing these choices down!

How can this be? CI sells 5 Avo Classic robustos for $40, and 5 CAO Gold robustos for $20. How can it be that a 5/5 sampler of each merely costs $35??? Did someone jack up the numbers?

Try La Aurora 1495. I'd call them medium strength, though others have called them full. Quality manufacturer, good construction and consistency. Box of 25 robust can be had for $60.

Hey, why not get in on the newbie sampler trade, the Everyday MAW, or even the dog rocket pass? That way you can try some different stuff that other guys actually recommended.

Chico: What are these you speak of?

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Originally Posted by c.ortiz108

Hey, why not get in on the newbie sampler trade, the Everyday MAW, or even the dog rocket pass? That way you can try some different stuff that other guys actually recommended.

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The Everyday Cigar MAW on cigarbum was voted top make a wish program by Cigar Forum Digest. Come join the fun!

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Originally Posted by rodwha

Chico: What are these you speak of?

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All the rules are at the beginning of each. I believe you're supposed to do the Newbie Sampler Trade first before doing other trades, to establish some cred, but I guess it's up to whoever is running the pass. In any case, the newbie trade is definitely the way to go for a first trade anyway! But here are all 3:

http://www.cigarbum.com/forum/showth...+sampler+trade

http://www.cigarbum.com/forum/showth...yday-Cigar-MAW

http://www.cigarbum.com/forum/showth...og-Rocket-Pass

Have fun!

I see I'm at the threshold for being a newbie, but I may just be able to participate in the others mentioned. I had no idea that this was going on, and certainly appreciate the heads up! It sounds like a great way to try sticks you may not have otherwise tried. Thanks!

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Originally Posted by rodwha

I see I'm at the threshold for being a newbie, but I may just be able to participate in the others mentioned. I had no idea that this was going on, and certainly appreciate the heads up! It sounds like a great way to try sticks you may not have otherwise tried. Thanks!

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I bet if you asked nicely @stonecutter2 would get you in the NST.