Wineador drawer question

Ok well I had to step up into the wineador category as I was bulging at the seams and just love the look and functionality of them. So about 18 months ago I scored a great deal on a new Newair 281e. I didnt have the funds for drawers for it so I just started filling it with old cigar boxes and then started filling it with cigars. A few weeks ago I finally pulled the trigger on a set of drawers for it and they are due in tomorrow. I can hardly wait.

My question now is what is the best way to season the new drawers. The wineador is holding a pretty large amount of cigars so I wont have anywhere to put them if I use it to season the drawers so I am looking for ideas and help for the next step in my journey.

Coolerador?

Otherwise the other thing you could try doing is only putting in one drawer at a time. If it's bursting at the seams with cedar and cigars, those will help act as a buffer. Hopefully just one drawer at a time won't drop the RH too quickly. I'd also try to not put any cigars directly touching the new drawer.

I placed several dishes in mine with with sponges soaked in distilled water (along with my kitty litter). I let it sit like that for several days till it got up to 75% RH and then pulled the sponges.

Let it sit for another 24hrs and it leveled back down to 68% RH and I moved my sticks in. It has held 68-69% RH since.

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Originally Posted by Upstatemax

I placed several dishes in mine with with sponges soaked in distilled water (along with my kitty litter). I let it sit like that for several days till it got up to 75% RH and then pulled the sponges.

Let it sit for another 24hrs and it leveled back down to 68% RH and I moved my sticks in. It has held 68-69% RH since.

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Yeah but he can't do that with all the cigars that have to be in those drawers.

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Originally Posted by tjhemp

Ok well I had to step up into the wineador category as I was bulging at the seams and just love the look and functionality of them. So about 18 months ago I scored a great deal on a new Newair 281e. I didnt have the funds for drawers for it so I just started filling it with old cigar boxes and then started filling it with cigars. A few weeks ago I finally pulled the trigger on a set of drawers for it and they are due in tomorrow. I can hardly wait.

My question now is what is the best way to season the new drawers. The wineador is holding a pretty large amount of cigars so I wont have anywhere to put them if I use it to season the drawers so I am looking for ideas and help for the next step in my journey.

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a pretty large amount of cigars so I wont have anywhere to put them..I can help you there..I'll pm my addy an pay flat rate shippin..do you need a box for the cigars???

sounds like someone needs to have a tupperware party and smoke-a-thon.

Now to be serious. Do you have the option to but the sticks in large tupperware and complete the seasoning process.

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Originally Posted by Zeede

Yeah but he can't do that with all the cigars that have to be in those drawers.

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A few days outside the humidor will not hurt anything.

I placed mine in a large Tupperware container I had sitting around while I seasoned my Wineador.

Or place them all in large ziplock bags.

Getting the wineador properly seasoned will be far better for the cigars long term than keeping them out of the wineador for a few days.

Lots of info here: http://www.cigarbum.com/forum/showth...ormation/page4

and a shameless plug for my build thread: http://www.cigarbum.com/forum/showth...0e-guide/page2

I personally took 4 disposable Ziploc containers and put a sponge in each and then filled each with enough water to go halfway up the sponge. it worked really good. but I would wait a little longer than i did because the drawers still could have seasoned a little more but it evened out fairly quick.

get yourself a ziploc container like the one here http://www.cigarbum.com/forum/showth...Ghetto-Storage throw all your cigars a boveda or 2 they will be fine while the draws season in the wineador

I got my shelves, unboxed all my cigars into them, and let it be.... Never spiked or dropped dramatically. Just remember this hobby/passion can be as simple or as difficult as you make it. Cigars I believe are more flexible than we give credit. Just my two cents. Cheers 🍻

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Originally Posted by Zeede

Coolerador?

Otherwise the other thing you could try doing is only putting in one drawer at a time. If it's bursting at the seams with cedar and cigars, those will help act as a buffer. Hopefully just one drawer at a time won't drop the RH too quickly. I'd also try to not put any cigars directly touching the new drawer.

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I actually found that I have a medium sized cooler that I forgot about and I think it will work great to hold my sticks until the drawers are ready.

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Originally Posted by AuTechCoM

Lots of info here: http://www.cigarbum.com/forum/showth...ormation/page4

and a shameless plug for my build thread: http://www.cigarbum.com/forum/showth...0e-guide/page2

I personally took 4 disposable Ziploc containers and put a sponge in each and then filled each with enough water to go halfway up the sponge. it worked really good. but I would wait a little longer than i did because the drawers still could have seasoned a little more but it evened out fairly quick.

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Shameless plugs are very welcome here.

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Originally Posted by tjhemp

Shameless plugs are very welcome here.

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Now that I had a second to re-read your question...

I only seasoned mine for 3 days before i became impatient. I think if you just throw your cigars in a cooler in the meantime you should be fine. but a few other BOTLs said "just load her up and let it season over time." I don't know if i fully agree with that advice but it sure didn't change the outcome for me. since my drawers were still sucking up moisture for a few weeks. i just noticed that I had to recharge my HF Beads every few days to a week but now it is solid and I haven't had to recharge in over a month i think.

Most cedar comes kiln dried, so basically zero humidity. Most places the ambient humidity is 30-50%. So you could just have the drawers out in the open for a week or two and they'd naturally start absorbing some humidity. Then if you were to just drop them in the wineador with the cigars the relative difference would be less.

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Originally Posted by Zeede

Most cedar comes kiln dried, so basically zero humidity. Most places the ambient humidity is 30-50%. So you could just have the drawers out in the open for a week or two and they'd naturally start absorbing some humidity. Then if you were to just drop them in the wineador with the cigars the relative difference would be less.

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Mine came in pretty dry.

Mind you mine were made and shipped in the winter.

When I put just the brand new drawers in the wineador and let it sit for about 6hrs, it showed a 42% RH.

That was a good clue for me that they needed to be seasoned, lol.

I made the massive mistake of seasoning my drawers when I got them. I was stuck at 80% rh for over a week. Seasoning is definitely not required in Florida. I actually never have to recharge my beads. On the contrary...I actually have to nuke them every few months to remove the humidity. So results will vary a little to a lot depending on geographic location.

Then the second huge mistake was that I thought my collection would fit in a single 28-bottle wineador. I was mistaken by about 300 sticks. A year later and I still have overflow in the old coolidor. So far I have managed to resist the urge to build a 2nd one but its inevitable :D

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Originally Posted by projectsunfire

I made the massive mistake of seasoning my drawers when I got them. I was stuck at 80% rh for over a week. Seasoning is definitely not required in Florida. I actually never have to recharge my beads. On the contrary...I actually have to nuke them every few months to remove the humidity. So results will vary a little to a lot depending on geographic location.

Then the second huge mistake was that I thought my collection would fit in a single 28-bottle wineador. I was mistaken by about 300 sticks. A year later and I still have overflow in the old coolidor. So far I have managed to resist the urge to build a 2nd one but its inevitable :D

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I am afraid this could be me in short order.

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Originally Posted by projectsunfire

I was mistaken by about 300 sticks.

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...yeah...I'm not even remotely in the same neighborhood as you are...

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Originally Posted by Zeede

...yeah...I'm not even remotely in the same neighborhood as you are...

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Just give it time... ;)

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Originally Posted by jhedrick83

Just give it time... ;)

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Ditto. This is a very slippery slope.

If my wallet were the USS Enterprise, the little Scotty in it would be saying, "I've giv'n her all she's got captain, an' I canna give her no more!"

I don't recommend soaking the drawers but i do recommend that you wipe them off with a "damp" sponge just to get the dust off. After that I would place them in the cooler with a few bowls of distilled water until it holds steady at the desired humidity level. Add media and let it stabilize before adding cigars.

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Originally Posted by Zeede

...yeah...I'm not even remotely in the same neighborhood as you are...

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You'll sooner than you think make that move.

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Originally Posted by projectsunfire

I made the massive mistake of seasoning my drawers when I got them. I was stuck at 80% rh for over a week. Seasoning is definitely not required in Florida. I actually never have to recharge my beads. On the contrary...I actually have to nuke them every few months to remove the humidity. So results will vary a little to a lot depending on geographic location.

Then the second huge mistake was that I thought my collection would fit in a single 28-bottle wineador. I was mistaken by about 300 sticks. A year later and I still have overflow in the old coolidor. So far I have managed to resist the urge to build a 2nd one but its inevitable :D

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Kris, how many did you manage to get in yours? I'm looking at a NewAir 281E I think, and have that very concern.

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Originally Posted by projectsunfire

Then the second huge mistake was that I thought my collection would fit in a single 28-bottle wineador. I was mistaken by about 300 sticks. A year later and I still have overflow in the old coolidor. So far I have managed to resist the urge to build a 2nd one but its inevitable :D

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Well I was smarter than that! I decided to start right off with a 32-bottle wineador! But I still have a coolidor on overflow... alas- there is no "winning"...

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Originally Posted by Bowtech4ever

Kris, how many did you manage to get in yours? I'm looking at a NewAir 281E I think, and have that very concern.

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I think it was around 400. I don't buy many boxes so I have mostly singles and fivers...so it really comes down to your tetris skills

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Originally Posted by SeanTheEvans

Well I was smarter than that! I decided to start right off with a 32-bottle wineador! But I still have a coolidor on overflow... alas- there is no "winning"...

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Sheesh...where do you people get all your money to buy so many sticks?? I've got a 12 bottle that I'm still trying to get filled up...I'm probably not much more than half way full. :stogie:

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Originally Posted by Ilroy

Sheesh...where do you people get all your money to buy so many sticks?? I've got a 12 bottle that I'm still trying to get filled up...I'm probably not much more than half way full. :stogie:

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I used to have this thing call a jorb.

Then I realized I was happier without it - luckily I got to keep my cigars

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Originally Posted by Ilroy

Sheesh...where do you people get all your money to buy so many sticks?? I've got a 12 bottle that I'm still trying to get filled up...I'm probably not much more than half way full. :stogie:

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Careful, talk like that gets you ninja bombed.

:)

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Originally Posted by Ilroy

Sheesh...where do you people get all your money to buy so many sticks?? I've got a 12 bottle that I'm still trying to get filled up...I'm probably not much more than half way full. :stogie:

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Careful, talk like that gets you ninja bombed.

:)

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Originally Posted by SeanTheEvans

I used to have this thing call a jorb.

Then I realized I was happier without it - luckily I got to keep my cigars

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Heh...Yeah, that job thing keeps getting in the way of having more fun...I guess the main problem is another hobby or two to use up some of the fun money.


@Zeede - good luck with that...I don't think my address is listed in my profile, and only 2 others on here have gotten it outta me...:cool:

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Originally Posted by Ilroy

@Zeede - good luck with that...I don't think my address is listed in my profile, and only 2 others on here have gotten it outta me...:cool:

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Okay you two, send me his address so we can help a BotL with his "problem" of a wineador "half full" :)

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Originally Posted by Zeede

Okay you two, send me his address so we can help a BotL with his "problem" of a wineador "half full" :)

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Maybe it's half empty? Ever think of that?

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Originally Posted by SeanTheEvans

Maybe it's half empty? Ever think of that?

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Current inventory totals 118 of various sizes and shapes with another 25 box to be delivered around next week, if customs allows it through...Pre-made wineadors of this size claim to hold about 250, which seems a reasonable estimate based on what's in there and how much space is empty...so I would say more than half full and less than half empty if that helps your mind wrapping around the question at hand...:devilish:

Having 5 drawers and one shelf in my NewAir 281e I have fit almost 400 cigars now with room for an estimate 100 more. I have mostly Robusto size cigars to that is going to allow more space than those with bigger RG cigars. I was pleasantly surprised at how much it could hold.

What is the drawer thickness on what most people have going on? I was thinking of cutting down on that when making my own drawers, as I doubt there won't be "enough" SC in the wineador, and I'd really like to fit as many cigars as possible. Since I won't be throwing the thing down any stairs, I don't feel like rugged durability is a huge concern either.

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Originally Posted by SeanTheEvans

What is the drawer thickness on what most people have going on? I was thinking of cutting down on that when making my own drawers, as I doubt there won't be "enough" SC in the wineador, and I'd really like to fit as many cigars as possible. Since I won't be throwing the thing down any stairs, I don't feel like rugged durability is a huge concern either.

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still waitin for those shelves for my wineador..thought youd have sent them by now...

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Originally Posted by SeanTheEvans

What is the drawer thickness on what most people have going on? I was thinking of cutting down on that when making my own drawers, as I doubt there won't be "enough" SC in the wineador, and I'd really like to fit as many cigars as possible. Since I won't be throwing the thing down any stairs, I don't feel like rugged durability is a huge concern either.

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Mine are 3/8" thick.

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Originally Posted by SeanTheEvans

What is the drawer thickness on what most people have going on? I was thinking of cutting down on that when making my own drawers, as I doubt there won't be "enough" SC in the wineador, and I'd really like to fit as many cigars as possible. Since I won't be throwing the thing down any stairs, I don't feel like rugged durability is a huge concern either.

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Mine that I built are 3/4 all around. If I had it to do over again, I would do 1/4 slats for the bottom and 1/2 or 3/8 for the front, back, and sides. The 1/4 bottoms can be done with overhang to fit perfectly in the wineador shelf slots.

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Originally Posted by SeanTheEvans

What is the drawer thickness on what most people have going on? I was thinking of cutting down on that when making my own drawers, as I doubt there won't be "enough" SC in the wineador, and I'd really like to fit as many cigars as possible. Since I won't be throwing the thing down any stairs, I don't feel like rugged durability is a huge concern either.

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Sean you could use 1/4" for bottom with 3/8 for all four sides and you would be spot on.