See most people on here that like smaller sized cigars. I prefer robusto or toro sometimes. Who likes the churchills?
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See most people on here that like smaller sized cigars. I prefer robusto or toro sometimes. Who likes the churchills?
It's not so much the length as it is the ring gauge. I didn't mind a larger rg years ago, but as I get older, I prefer cigars no larger than fifty-ish. The problem is that a lot of the cigars I like don't come smaller than 52-54 rg. such is life......Quote:
Originally Posted by Cigarer
I have to agree with this ^^!Quote:
Originally Posted by droy1958
I started out as a robusto/Toro smoker and still like that 5 - 6 inch cigar but look more at the rg. Ideally that 50 rg or smaller is the target, but will readily go as high as 52. Will I smoke a larger rg? Of course, but not if I have a preference.
For me it is also about RG. I prefer a smaller RG 50 or less is preferred. I'm finding that I prefer smaller cigars because I just dont often have the time to sit and enjoy the longer smokes. When I do have the time I've been enjoying having two smaller cigars back to back to really notice the differences in the cigars.
Me. I did like and a fair portion of cigars I smoked were Churchills.
A little explanation when I started smoking daily the Corona was a big cigar
With Perfecto and Corona by far the most popular cigar sizes.Nineteen fifty-fifty one.
Of course smoked some that I think were Toro sized. Panatelas and then the Churchills.
Smoked and liked the big old Churhills a lot.Ring Gauges were in the forties.with I think a 47 - 48, maybe 49 the largest.
Can't recall any cigar being referred to as a Robusto.
Then, maybe in the 1980s or '90s started see larger ring gauge cigars more and more often.
Seemed(to me) freakishly over sized but gradually started smoking larger Ring Gauge cigars more often.
Have come pretty much full circle and now I'm right back where I stated.
Most often smoking cigars in the five inch to six,six and a half length.
Sometimes a four inch cigar and sometimes a seven - seven and a half incher.
But the ring size stays for the most part under 50.
Some cigars I like a lot aren't made in sizes smaller than 52-54 or even 56.
So I wind up smoking those, usually in the Toro size.
I'll guess most who started smoking cigars in the Nineteen Eighties- Ninties or later see fifty Ring Gauge smokes as the "norm"
much as those who started smoking a bit farther back in time saw the Forty ring sizes as the usual.
Yup, some FOGs do tend to run on.
I love Churchills and my grandfather taught me a little trick about 50 years ago. He'd cut the cigar in half and essentially had two cigars the size of a robusto where he'd smoke half and then use one of those cigar stems of the same RG and use for the other half at a later time. I've got 2 of those stems and they work great.
I tend to lean towards longer cigars. When I am sitting down for a short cigar its a robusto. I do dabble in smaller coronas and petite sizes. If I have not smoked it five or six times and decided I disliked it five or six times then I am going to gladly try it. If a fiver or more can't win me over then its not worth smoking. I do enjoy variety in my RG as well. I tend to lean towards the 48 to 60. I have had a few 70s and 80s. They tend to be a bit gimmicky. But I will still smoke them from time to time.
I tend to prefer the smaller RG cigars, but I have had a few larger ones like a 60 that weren't bad wouldn't want to smoke all the time but occasionally they are fine.
When I first started smoking cigars I was all about the churchill. I had this image in my mind that a churchill was the perfect sized cigar. I also rationalized why would I pay for a corona or a robusto when for a buck or two more I could get almost twice the cigar. This also happened to be when I would puff down a churchill in less than 80 minutes. How times have changed.
Now that I savor a cigar, I prefer a 4.5" to 6" length cigar with a ring gauge of 54 or less. Rarely will I smoke a churchill as I don't want to sit with the same cigar for 2+ hours. Robustos are almost perfect for me as they will provide me with 80-90 minutes of enjoyment and it times out perfectly with a couple tv episodes, or a short movie on the iPad. If I am going to watch a 2 hour movie on the iPad, I will grab a toro out of the humidor.
I usually go for robusto or petit corona. Reason being, the more flavorful cigars often tend to be full strength as well and a churchill is too much vit N for me. I don't like a nic buzz at all; it just makes me dizzy and nauseated. That and I just don't have the patience to sit around long enough to smoke a churchill.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cigarer
You're kind of running on a bit there Bob. You must be a FOG.......;)Quote:
Originally Posted by allusred
Ring gauge plays more of a factor then the cigars length. I've tried the larger ring sizes, but I don't enjoy them as much as a 50 or 52 RG in any length.
I guess I pay attention to both girth and length. (That's what she said)
I'm not a fan of Churchill size (or longer) cigars normally as I find the draw to be too hard until the first inch or two has turned to ash. So normally I don't smoke cigars longer than 6 or 6.5 inches. There are exceptions of course, but that is my general rule.
On ring gauge I tend to like them bigger than most people on here. For me a 52-58 is a great size. I do go up to 60 for Nubs and a couple others (Asylum 13 is great in the 60 RG). I smoke stuff under 50 RG from time to time but it's not my go to.
In conclusion, smoke cigars!
I started out smoking mostly robusto and toro size, but as I've progressed, I find that I tend to prefer a bit smaller in RG. I mostly smoke corona and petite corona size these days, although I still do go as thick as 50-52 sometimes. Length is only a factor in how much time I have at a sitting to smoke. If I have the time and an appropriate amount of scotch or brandy, a longer smoke is fine with me.
I like the traditional Churchill (48 rg) but sadly I don't usually have time for 2.5-3 hours to dedicate to enjoying one. I also think it's harder to get a good Churchill in the NC side. Like Jeremy, said a lot of them aren't always the best constructed cigars. I think small RG and Churchills/Double Coronas are two things Cuba excels at. That's just my opinion though.
I guess in a way they can be like Lanceros. A well rolled and appropriately blended Lancero is exceptional, but finding well rolled and appropriately blended Lanceros can be difficult and not every blend translates well to the size.
I used to think I was a "value shopper," buying the larger length and volume sticks, but pretty much just get robustos and smaller toros now. With the tree trunk cigars, after about an hour and a half I find myself thinking, how much longer do I have to smoke this thing?
I prefer cigars with ring gauge in the mid 40's and smoke a lot of petite coronas. I don't mind sticks with a ring gauge in the low 50s and I do smoke plenty of Robustos. I buy Illusion Rs by the cabinet.
Now to the question of Churchills; is there a more perfect cigar for a lazy afternoon or an evening by the fire. If I'm just going to be chilling fora few hours I'm all for a Churchill. The upper 40's ring gauge fits in my wheelhouse and I don't mind 6 1/2-7 inch cigar if I have a couple of hours to enjoy it. Smoke time is really a function of length for me. A 5 inch petite corona and corona gordas are a 1 to 1 1/4 hour smoke. A 4 1/2 Rubusto is maybe a 45-50 smoke. A Churchill is an hour and half to two hour smoke.
If I've got the time a Churchill is fine.
Most of the time I don't want to smoke a cigar longer than 60-75 minutes. So I usually stay within those sizes. I love petite coronas, which is usually a 45-60 minute smoke for me.
I don't mind the larger cigars. It usually depends on the setting. The ideal size for me when sitting on my back deck in warmer weather relaxing on an evening would be a Toro. I don't really mind the big 60 RG cigars, but it's not my favorite. When I'm on the Golf Course, I prefer the larger and longer cigars. Unless it's cold or I'm pressed for time, the little cigars leave me wanting for more.
I LOVE a 60 Rg if its not longer than like 4 to 4.5" after that I get bored. Lately I have been trying to find that OMG cigar in the 40-45 RG size. All I have been finding is the CC's. Everything else I have been approaching seems to be seriously sucking. Either they are WAY to strong and WAY to harsh or they are just crap and not worth smoking or keeping. The short CC's seem to be just about right these days.
I am TOTALLY open to suggestions though to a AMAZING 30 min smoke..
Cheers
Jay
I used to always buy Churchills when I first became a smoker of premium hand-rolled cigars. Figured I was getting more for my money. Now days, my preferred size is a toro, around 6 x 50. My second favorite is a robusto 5 x 50. The shorter cigars, in my experience, are less likely to go south when you get closer to the nub. I also like a corona for a short smoke, although I rarely buy them.
I like robustos mainly.
Prefer to keep it under a 52 RG. One of the biggest PIA for me, the owner of my local shop is a fan of 60+ RG so that's what he mostly stocks.
So he will get in a cigar I want to try, but I won't buy from him because they are all HUGE sizes...
Yup i try to keep things 50rg or smaller. Not an easy task for sure. A lot of times price plays a major role for my purchases regardless of rg, if i could I'd go no bigger than 52. Although I've let some good deal slip away lately because the cigar in questin is a 60rg that is to big for my preferences at this point.
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I'm a rather small guy at 5'8" and 160 so anything larger than a 50 ring is a bit much unless it's box pressed. Though I'm happy with a 50 ring I prefer something in the 40's.
SWMBO doesn't care so much for me smoking and I generally don't have too muh more than an hour so 5.5" is generally as long as I go. However on the days I water the grass I am outside for quite some time and if I have to be out in the Texas heat I want to make it worth my sufferage and usually go for a Lonsdale or Churchill.
I've been a bit enamored with the shorties around 4" and mid 30 ring to low 40 ring. Plenty of times I have just 30 mins of smoking time.
For me I feel a Corona is ideal. I was mostly into Robustos until I tried them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Haebar
Romeo Vintage, my friend, nuff said!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaybird
I tend to like coronas most, as I'm trying to get that magic "this is what they were shooting for" bundle of tastes and aromas, but I do like the fat robusto (5x56) that CAO makes, as well as Boneshaker and Diesel UHC
I mostly enjoy a nice PC. Especially a CC PC. It suits my smoke time best. That is unless I am brewing beer then I have several hours of free time and then I enjoy a Corona. That seems to be my sweet spot for flavour.
What size would you say is their 30 min smoke? The #1?Quote:
Originally Posted by Usafvet509
Cheers
Jay
MY favorite cigar so far is the My Uzi Weighs A Ton Bait Fish. 30-40 minute smoke, despite it's small size.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaybird
When trying a blend for the first time I usually try and find out which vitola was the original one, since I figure that was the one they blended and liked enough to put into production.Quote:
Originally Posted by Usafvet509
In general though, I think I have a really weak palate (or one that's easily bored) so I find that the longer the cigar lasts, generally I'm not getting anything new out of it.
For some cigars, this is fine, because I'm enjoying a cigar to slow down and relax. So long as the flavors are pleasant and enjoyable, I'll keep smoking it.
Long story, short, it depends :)
My bad, Jay. I was speaking to an NC that is an AWESOME mild smoke. I was blown outta the water by that one. The #1, I wouldn't wanna give that one less than 45min of my time. You had mentioned that NC's were either way too harsh or they sucked, this one is beautifully complex, yet a mild stickQuote:
Originally Posted by Jaybird
IMO, for a 30 min smoke it doesn't get any better than a Fuente Hemingway Short Story.
Can't go wrong with those.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cool Breeze
One of my favorites!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cool Breeze
I also really like the Mo'W Puro Authentico for a short smoke.
Lasts longer than 30 minutes for me, but I'd be in full agreement with you on this!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cool Breeze
Don't know how long one lasts for me, can't recall, but would likely be 45min...50mim, or more. But I'm a kinda slow smoker, and figure most burn cigars quicker'n I do.Quote:
Originally Posted by SeanTheEvans
Some tome back when buying a box of the 8-5-8, think they were Coronas Natural, was offered what seemed a good deal on a box each of the Hemingway Short Stories and the Ashton (cabinet?) Tres Petite. Both of those two boxes smoked well ...and were a much more of a bargain then I thought at the time. Just realized haven't seen the Ashton Tres Petite mentioned on Cigarbum .
I know not of this vitolaQuote:
Originally Posted by allusred
Its part of the Cabinet selections from Ashton. Spendy little smoke but I hear good things!
Cheers
Jay
Found a little info on the Tres Petite from Ashton. Famous has them at $201.00 for a box of twenty five a pack of five for $40.99and a single at $8.95.Quote:
Originally Posted by SeanTheEvans
Made by Fuente. Conneticut wrapper, fillers and binder D.R.Quite an enjoyable smoke, tho a tad pricey for this Bum.
The box of the Tres Petites cost me $117.00, there was a price sticker in the box...$10.30. The Short Stories cost $99.00 both purchased along with a (sadly at full price) box of the 858 but no Tax on any of them. Got them about at this time of year, four years ago...when the Tres Petite Cab and the S.S. were reduced because they'd not sold over the Holidays, yeah sometimes a good deal can be snagged on a cold evening. The only other Ashtons I've had were a nearly full box of the Magnums can't recall the price, good cigar tho again too high priced for further buys.
NYTONY might like the Tres Peite...prolly has a few boxes stashed away for Golf days.