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Somehow, I ended up watching this YouTube video...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p30CeDYYKlk
...and something struck me as odd. He seems to think that Bic lighters burn a different fuel than his torch lighters. I mentioned this in the comments and...it did not go well.
My comment may or may not be deleted, but I still have a screenshot. Am I the one who's confused here?
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I've burned an acre of tobacco with a Bic, but a torch is nice when available.....
Bic lighters are filled with butane. That guy doesn't have a clue.
smash a bic open once and see how the fuel flashes off. ...just like butane
(Disclaimer: for safety reasons, and to protect the stupid from hilarious injuries, this post does not advocate smashing bic lighters)
I thought Bics were filled with goat farts????...Quote:
Originally Posted by Emperor Zurg
Well they're made in China like everything else these days so they're prolly filled with Chinaman fartsQuote:
Originally Posted by droy1958
Holy shit, I may have a steady job!!!.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Emperor Zurg
Only if you like to eat lots of sauerkraut :p
The 'expert' advice I offer is just to enjoy what you smoke. Light it however you want.
You are absolutely correct. He does state No Butane, if I understand the universal symbol of a red circle with a diagonal line through it correctly. The store lighters are fueled in the same way as a torch, just jetted differently to mix with the other required component of combustion; oxygen, resulting in a hotter, more directed flame. Some may say a soft flame may be preferred over a torch, especially in the hands of the less experienced. There is less chance of scorching the tobacco. Overall, the video doesn't offer other bad direction and would be helpful to the novice. On the butane specificity, it is incorrect. @PhilB , for a newcomer to cigars, you are well informed. I can see you've done your research. :thumb:
Thanks. I have somewhat obsessive tendencies when it comes to any hobby. I endlessly research everything I can about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nature
Some of this gentleman's other videos also have...interesting advice (there's one where he circles the lit cigar near his face repeatedly, as that helps him pick out flavours...)
Nice catch on the error! Xikar also sells soft flame lighter that I prefer to use on non-windy days. Check them out if you get a chance. I think soft flame increases the enjoyment of a cigar. There's something about a wavering flame.
I've seen a video of Jose Padron lighting a $30 stick with a Bic. I'll go with Senor Padron over this guy, thank you very much.
Yep. I only light cigars with matches/spills, or my Xikar EX (the soft flame). I still don't own any torches, although I have 5 eBay ones coming from China eventually, for those super-windy days, but I haven't needed to go there yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tman
I also have my dad's old S.T. DuPont Line 2 that I need to send in for repairs.
I was just gonna say if a bic is good enough for Jose padron, its good enough for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cool Breeze
Um....
For value, convenience, ease of use, and dependability, Bic is the way to go. Just don't tell our Torch Lighters dept. that I said that, lol.
To be totally honest, I also own a couple of very nice torches that I reserve for "special" smoking occasions, trips to the lounge, etc. But it's a Bic on the day-to-day.
Bics also seem to be the easiest lighter to deal with while traveling on airlines...you can just carry it right on with you.
Yep. I always bring a bic when I travel. I stick a Ronson in my checked baggage, and I've never lost one (yes, that sound IS me knocking on wood), but I carry a Bic just in case.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ilroy
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Originally Posted by Ilroy
No brainer there. Disposable/Bic type is almost all I used in Mexico. I'm not buying or bringing an expensive lighter on vacation, and it was often too windy for matches.
Just saw this thread, caught the first wee bit and when he mentioned that one might have to use an entire book of matches to light a single cigar. Figured I'd share my thoughts.
Either the cigar is:
#1. Not made of Tobacco or.
#2. It is soaking wet o r.
#3. The matches are damp or.
#4. those are Asbestos matches or.
#5. the would be cigar smoker is using his feet to strike the matches and not enough or flexible enouth to bring the flame to the too short cigar or most likely.
#6 The person trying to light the cigar is the damp one..a Snowflake.
I'm a BIC guy too. I believe fire is what is required to light a ceegar and BIC's supply that reliably. That dude is trying to impress someone and instead reveals he is an idiot.
As the resident heretic, I light my tobacco with a standard, Zippo windproof 98% of the time; cigars and pipes both. Yes, it does yield a slight petro flavor for the first puff or two sometimes. Yes, it tends to burn the rim of my pipes after a while. Don't care. I 'prefer' wooden kitchen matches as my ideal light but let's face it; that's not always... no, not usually practical. The convenience of the Zippo and the absolute reliability outweighs the negatives by a ton or two.