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    Ridin' in a BoxCar OnePyroTec's Avatar  Cigar Bum Sponsor
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    I wasn't suggesting for you to condition the KL, simply giving the history behind them.

    I'm curious what would be an easier or more simple way of conditioning KL to a desired humidity level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnePyroTec View Post
    I'm curious what would be an easier or more simple way of conditioning KL to a desired humidity level.
    Believe me, I am too.

    Until one is found, I'm gonna have to bite the bullet and get some HF beads.

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    This is what I do (and did). It seems to me KL with no water will give me a RH of 62%. BTW I use an aquarium filter bag to hold mine for a wineador and use 2 tubos as you did in my 70 count humidor. If you need to raise the RH for your preference, spray distilled water (2 or 3 squirts) and then shut your door. This will raise the RH. Then go from there, squirt a little more several hours later if you want it higher or leave it if it is at a suitable RH for you. It holds at that RH very well but if you notice the RH dropping then give it a couple more squirts.

    This may not be as precise as the Oasis method but is suitable for my purposes.
    I was told not to pour water on the KL as it would wash away the salt thus limiting its effectiveness but can't verify how true this statement is.

    Either way use it or don't use it. Whatever your comfort zone tells you. It has always worked well for me and I have no plans to use any other method besides the odd Boveda pack for a traveldor.

    Cheers....

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    Seriously? No one is going to comment on the phrasing of the title of this thread? Am I the only one whose mind is in the gutter?

    But back on topic, that tube looks like a pretty darn good idea. If that doesn't work, you can try swapping the foam out of a traditional travel humidifier with beads, or a DryMistat tube and chuck the crystals.

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    Kayla, I believe that we ALL were thinking the same. We are guys and gutter is in our heads 24/7 but we have to try and act like mature men, not the grown boys we really are...

    Quote Originally Posted by cheaphumidors View Post
    Seriously? No one is going to comment on the phrasing of the title of this thread? Am I the only one whose mind is in the gutter?

    But back on topic, that tube looks like a pretty darn good idea. If that doesn't work, you can try swapping the foam out of a traditional travel humidifier with beads, or a DryMistat tube and chuck the crystals.
    If it is to be, It is up to me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheaphumidors View Post
    Seriously? No one is going to comment on the phrasing of the title of this thread? Am I the only one whose mind is in the gutter?

    But back on topic, that tube looks like a pretty darn good idea. If that doesn't work, you can try swapping the foam out of a traditional travel humidifier with beads, or a DryMistat tube and chuck the crystals.

    I new I loved your personality! Baaahhhhaaaaaaaa First thing I thought of was, WHAT? LMAO!

    OK I didn't read ALL the feedback. But I do use KL in my foot locker and this is how I do it.
    I have a few (3) small nylon bags http://www.norcalbrewingsolutions.co...Nylon_6x8.html is what I use. I filled them about 3/4 of the way and added water till they were DAMP. put THAT in a plastic zip lock bag and left open. Now I use that for my humidity and I use about 15 or so Boveda packs at whatever RH I want. The KL adds the RH the Boveda packs stabilize it. STUPID SIMPLE! If my Boveda packs seem SUPER full I simply remove the KL for awhile (few weeks/months) its as simple as it gets!

    Cheers
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    Heartfelt adds salts to their beads. Kitty litter has no salts added. These salts allow the silica to regulate humidity to a certain point. Without the salts, it doesn't. From the HF web site:

    "DO NOT immerse you[r] beads in distilled water or dip the beads in distilled water. Trying to add distilled water this way will ultimately rinse out the salts that the beads are impregnated with. This rinsing off of the salts will ultimately make the beads not be able to hold the given rh level that they are set for."

    Only HF will regulate to a certain RH. Kitty litter will not, because it's not impregnated with the necessary salts, because to absorb cat pee it doesn't need to be.

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    I use KL, but in combination with active humidification. HF beads still need to be maintained, just slightly less than KL. If you want as little maintenance as possible without active humidification, Boveda is the way to go.

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    Place your KL in a sealed container (Tupperware) with your boveda packs of your choice.
    Seal and let sit a few days, the KL will stabilize to that RH.
    After that a light spriz when it drops to maintain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lowrider58 View Post
    Place your KL in a sealed container (Tupperware) with your boveda packs of your choice.
    Seal and let sit a few days, the KL will stabilize to that RH.
    I could do that, or I could just put the Boveda packs in with the cigars

    It just seems like every KL method is more complex than some other method. It was my mistake for thinking that KL regulated to a set RH by itself.

    So this is what I've decided to do: I will use the Boveda packs in conjunction with the KL. The (well-saturated) KL will ensure the RH doesn't drop too low as well as "recharge" the Boveda packs constantly; the Boveda packs will ensure that the RH doesn't go over a certain amount.

    In the dry air here, and especially in my wooden humidor, things tend to run a couple % under the Boveda pack spec. During the winter, my Boveda 65s were providing no more than 60%. But with the KL, the % stays rock-steady at the spec of the Boveda. eg. the 65s are exactly at 65.
    Last edited by Ropey; 03-11-2015 at 06:23 PM.

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