Old bomb squads

[StogieNinja]

Everything about the gangs flew in the face of the very spirit of gift giving.

I gotta disagree with you there, Don. The Squids always were about recognizing and thanking members in the community that we appreciated. We had members who did their own thing, as did all the groups, and there were a few individuals towards the end that took things too far (there always are, and they're not exclusive to bombing groups) but I don't think it's fair or accurate to say that everything about the gangs flew in the face of the very spirit of giving.

There was a terrible rift and several members on both sides acted out in deplorable ways.

That may be the fairest thing that can be said on the matter.

[Herf N Turf]

It actually took a couple years, I think, before things really went downhill.



I gotta disagree with you there, Don. The Squids always were about recognizing and thanking members in the community that we appreciated. We had members who did their own thing, as did all the groups, and there were a few individuals towards the end that took things too far (there always are, and they're not exclusive to bombing groups) but I don't think it's fair or accurate to say that everything about the gangs flew in the face of the very spirit of giving.



That may be the fairest thing that can be said on the matter.

Well, Derek, that's how I felt about it at the time and still do. While I respect your opinion, if I put both sides on opposite ends of the seesaw, I'd have give it to the general membership, for the simple fact they didn't cause it. Perhaps the biggest mistake the "groups" made was to ignore the message being sent by the membership. I think, had that been acknowledged and activities amended, even slightly, naught would have happened. By "the end" as you call it, things had slid so far downhill and had become so rabid, that there was no reason left. Nothing worked.

I tried hard to express that I wasn't impugning every one of the members of all the gangs. If it came across that way, I apologize. My belief at the time was that it was about 35% jackasses at the end. Sadly, that 35% took down a LOT of really good people in the heat of battle. That's the part of it I deeply regret, but again, I wasn't at the wheel.

Edit: Oh and bytheway, we're not going to discuss any specific events, or specific members or groups in this, or any other thread. This is nothing, but bad blood that occurred in a long, far off, forgotten place and time. That stuff will not be carried into Cigar Bum.

[StogieNinja]

Edit: Oh and bytheway, we're not going to discuss any specific events, or specific members or groups in this, or any other thread. This is nothing, but bad blood that occurred in a long, far off, forgotten place and time. That stuff will not be carried into Cigar Bum.

I disagree with you on the hows and whys, and I always will, but I absolutely agree that doesn't need to be brought here.

All I meant in my response above was that bombing groups, in and of themselves, are not a negative thing, and don't intrinsically fly in the face of the spirit of giving. In fact, one of the best things about a group bomb it that it often leaves the recipient so buried in appreciation, he had no choice but to forget about retaliation and simply enjoy be appreciated.

[Big Bull]

I gotta disagree with you there, Don. The Squids always were about recognizing and thanking members in the community that we appreciated. We had members who did their own thing, as did all the groups, and there were a few individuals towards the end that took things too far (there always are, and they're not exclusive to bombing groups) but I don't think it's fair or accurate to say that everything about the gangs flew in the face of the very spirit of giving.



That may be the fairest thing that can be said on the matter.

Thanks Derek, sums it up pretty good.

When the Zillas came into being it wasn't about what it turned into at all.

[Herf N Turf]

All I meant in my response above was that bombing groups, in and of themselves, are not a negative thing, and don't intrinsically fly in the face of the spirit of giving. In fact, one of the best things about a group bomb it that it often leaves the recipient so buried in appreciation, he had no choice but to forget about retaliation and simply enjoy be appreciated.

Thanks Derek, sums it up pretty good.

When the XXXX came into being it wasn't about what it turned into at all.

Benn, please, I asked we not discuss this element. It can serve no purpose, but to perpetuate ire.

I do, however, completely agree that at least initially, the "groups cum gangs" was a righteous endeavor. What I think will remain in dispute is at what point it began heading in the wrong direction. Either way, if you analyze the end game, it wasn't worth it.

[Big Bull]

Done, and Done good sir!

Benn, please, I asked we not discuss this element. It can serve no purpose, but to perpetuate ire.

I do, however, completely agree that at least initially, the "groups cum gangs" was a righteous endeavor. What I think will remain in dispute is at what point it began heading in the wrong direction. Either way, if you analyze the end game, it wasn't worth it.