boutique cigar talk

[Demuths1770]

Totally agree especially the last part. I've put a lot of thought into how a BJCP type format could be made for cigars and there's some key snags with the idea. The hardest being the first thing you'd have to do.... Come up with distinct definable cigar styles, and guidelines, most all cigars can be sorted into. If you can find a consistent and detailed way to accomplish that the rest falls into place.

i have to agree this would be the best way. so if us cigar geeks are going off number of the lines and not the company as a whole i dont think boutique cigars are ending any time soon infact i think in the past year it has picked up and is still going strong

[allusred]

The labeling of cigars as Boutique by some online companies is a problem only until you understand that each and every line they are pushing is
either Premium, Super Premium, Ultra Premium, Limited Edition ,Small Batch or Boutique. And far too often some combination of several or ALL these terms.
Nevertheless the seller is able, but only for a very limited time, so you absolutely must act ($pend) right now, else these cigars will be gone forever.
But if you act super fast you may be able to get these Unique Small Batch Ultra Premium Limited Edition Boutique Masterpieces for $17.99 *with free shipping* for a box of 25 6x66 Perfectos.

How can anyone pass something like that up?

[Demuths1770]

The labeling of cigars as Boutique by some online companies is a problem only until you understand that each and every line they are pushing is
either Premium, Super Premium, Ultra Premium, Limited Edition ,Small Batch or Boutique. And far too often some combination of several or ALL these terms.
Nevertheless the seller is able, but only for a very limited time, so you absolutely must act ($pend) right now, else these cigars will be gone forever.
But if you act super fast you may be able to get these Unique Small Batch Ultra Premium Limited Edition Boutique Masterpieces for $17.99 *with free shipping* for a box of 25 6x66 Perfectos.

How can anyone pass something like that up?

thats a marketing plan that companies use selling to the general public. any cigar geek is not going to fall for that.

[stonecutter2]

I don't think it's the end of boutique cigars, I think it's coming close to where "boutique" is becoming a cliché in the cigar industry.

Boutique to me means total production - not production in a line, or limited edition. It's a small company that only puts out a small amount of cigars overall compared to the "big guys."

If I started rolling my own cigars, and only made 1,000 per year, they would be boutique cigars. If those were wildly popular and the identical blend, approved by me, was manufactured by General Cigar as Stonecutter2 Coronas, limited edition of only 150,000 - they are no longer boutique, they are produced en masse compared to small time production as they once were.

Everyone espouses the boutique buzzword right now, but they've diluted its meaning. It's not the end of boutique cigars, it's likely nearing the end of calling so many things boutique cigars. There will always be small time manufacturers putting out awesome stogies on a limited availability basis...but they'll get called something new to differentiate themselves.

[StogieNinja]

I don't think it's the end of boutique cigars, I think it's coming close to where "boutique" is becoming a cliché in the cigar industry.

Boutique to me means total production - not production in a line, or limited edition. It's a small company that only puts out a small amount of cigars overall compared to the "big guys."

If I started rolling my own cigars, and only made 1,000 per year, they would be boutique cigars. If those were wildly popular and the identical blend, approved by me, was manufactured by General Cigar as Stonecutter2 Coronas, limited edition of only 150,000 - they are no longer boutique, they are produced en masse compared to small time production as they once were.

Everyone espouses the boutique buzzword right now, but they've diluted its meaning. It's not the end of boutique cigars, it's likely nearing the end of calling so many things boutique cigars. There will always be small time manufacturers putting out awesome stogies on a limited availability basis...but they'll get called something new to differentiate themselves.

Agreed.

[stonecutter2]

Agreed.

I humbly propose that henceforth any true "boutique cigar" should be referred to simply as "a stonecutter."

[Demuths1770]

so to go a small step futher can a large company produce a boutique cigar? same question asked can a large beer company like miller coors make a craft beer? break down tatuaje and look how popular the main lines are but than the monsters, m80s, drinking age, and so on are such a smaller lines but still produced by a larger company

[jp1979]

the monsters, m80s, drinking age, and so on are such a smaller lines but still produced by a larger company

Those are just limited releases.

[Demuths1770]

Those are just limited releases.

but some definitions of boutique is a line thats made for just a single store, m80. its almost like limited releases and boutique could be interchangable because most boutique cigars are limited production for multipul reason from limited tobacco supply because of funds or hard to find tobacco to limited funds focing smaller amounts.

[jp1979]

but some definitions of boutique is a line thats made for just a single store, m80. its almost like limited releases and boutique could be interchangable because most boutique cigars are limited production for multipul reason from limited tobacco supply because of funds or hard to find tobacco to limited funds focing smaller amounts.

It's not a boutique cigar in my opinion. It's a store exclusive, boutique cigars are made by boutique companies, which Tatuaje is not. Just my opinion yours may vary