CI "Fake" Cigars?

[Skeat5353]

This is the same Bryan Glynn who reviewed a fake Monte 2 and didn't realize it until a viewer sent in an email saying the band looked fake and the wrapper looked terrible. Maybe he's trying to get even. He also discovered a bunch of hard stems in Padron filler too. I like the fact that he opens up the cigars. Someone has to protect us, right?

[Demuths1770]

This is the same Bryan Glynn who reviewed a fake Monte 2 and didn't realize it until a viewer sent in an email saying the band looked fake and the wrapper looked terrible. Maybe he's trying to get even. He also discovered a bunch of hard stems in Padron filler too. I like the fact that he opens up the cigars. Someone has to protect us, right?

padron also got back to him after doing that and stated that is normal. these are natural products being rolled by people. natural defects and human error are to be expected at some point. the fact that he is claiming these to be fake and the nature of him doing so is wrong which is probably why they got on him. also the same Bryan Glynn that said its ok to take Heartfelt beads and soak them in tap water lol

[Skeat5353]

padron also got back to him after doing that and stated that is normal. these are natural products being rolled by people. natural defects and human error are to be expected at some point. the fact that he is claiming these to be fake and the nature of him doing so is wrong which is probably why they got on him. also the same Bryan Glynn that said its ok to take Heartfelt beads and soak them in tap water lol

Don't mistake me at all. Bryan Glynn is a goofball. What amazes me is that he's had industry professionals on his shows, master blenders, industry execs, etc. He's got 10,000+ subscribers on Youtube. I can't watch him though. He has no personality whatever. Not a joke, not a laugh, no intelligence, just a boring loser in his backyard. I don't know why people watch him in the first place. But he still has a right to make his videos without legal pressure from some giant online retailer.

[Emperor Zurg]

Don't mistake me at all. Bryan Glynn is a goofball. What amazes me is that he's had industry professionals on his shows, master blenders, industry execs, etc. He's got 10,000+ subscribers on Youtube. I can't watch him though. He has no personality whatever. Not a joke, not a laugh, no intelligence, just a boring loser in his backyard. I don't know why people watch him in the first place. But he still has a right to make his videos without legal pressure from some giant online retailer.

I agree with ya, Skeat

He has every right to make his videos and post his arrogant opinions. More power to him. Hooray for Bryan (insert sarcastic clapping) He does not have the right to make things up and spread libelous accusations. "CI sells this as a long filler cigar" is just plain false. Slander and libel are illegal and kudos to CI for standing up to the jackass.


I can't believe this discussion has gone on for 11 pages...

[theHammer56]

I can't believe this discussion has gone on for 11 pages...

Yep.

[herman]

3. is some one who buys and smokes dollar cigars really going to give a shit? Do you think that the quality of that cigar is any worse than other 1 dollar cigars, I doubt it....

I don't know what actually happened here or how the cigar was advertised. To be fair I do remember seeing a little bit of long filler in the center though a majority was short. I guess what bothers me about this mentality, if someone were to plan and commit petty theft 20xs a day, do you think they wouldn't be facing a felony if caught? By consequence it's less lethal for a business, (perhaps not the insurance company) but for some reason I don't think the law would view this as a stack of misdemeanors no matter what state you're in. If these were truly bait and switched by CI, which I don't believe to be the case, even if the consumers were forgiving, I don't see the law being so blind unless there were a double standard providing immunity.

[spyder]

I believe this issue has roots a bit further back for BG. In a video a couple years back he discussed a common practice in the cigar industry (supposedly based on "insider" information that he received.). A manufacturer creates a premium cigar line that is a hit with consumers. They milk it for awhile until sales start fading or they run through their supply of that particular blend. Then the mfg sells off the line (including the name) and any remaining supplies to a "big box" type of retailer / wholesaler. The big box folks then highly discount the price and run with it. If it's a sales hit, they contract some OEM cigar mfg to make a decent replica at a price that will still be profitable at the lower price point. For certain price points this obviously means the mixed use of long, short and scrap fillers.

So in car terms, you wind up with a vehicle made from misc good and rejected parts with VW emblems and sold as new.

[jp1979]

I don't know what actually happened here or how the cigar was advertised. To be fair I do remember seeing a little bit of long filler in the center though a majority was short. I guess what bothers me about this mentality, if someone were to plan and commit petty theft 20xs a day, do you think they wouldn't be facing a felony if caught? By consequence it's less lethal for a business, (perhaps not the insurance company) but for some reason I don't think the law would view this as a stack of misdemeanors no matter what state you're in. If these were truly bait and switched by CI, which I don't believe to be the case, even if the consumers were forgiving, I don't see the law being so blind unless there were a double standard providing immunity.

I don't understand the point of your post.

[stonecutter2]

This is the same Bryan Glynn who reviewed a fake Monte 2 and didn't realize it until a viewer sent in an email saying the band looked fake and the wrapper looked terrible. Maybe he's trying to get even. He also discovered a bunch of hard stems in Padron filler too. I like the fact that he opens up the cigars. Someone has to protect us, right?

I had a large hard stem inside of a Padron 64 Anniversary. Emailed Padron a couple times but never even got a response. I smoked it, and it was delicious. I hope the next one I smoke has a big ol' stem in it too