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    If the insides of the cigar are a lot moister than the wrapper the heat will cause the cigar to swell and crack the wrapper. If there air is very dry that can cause a similar effect. Like others said some wrappers are just delicate. I have noticed in the last 6 months or so that the quality of some brands seems to be going down hill. The wrappers on the Ave Maria I have been getting are shit compared to a year ago. You could try if you notice a specific brand or wrapper doing this you could try dry boxing it a day before smoking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombstone View Post
    If the insides of the cigar are a lot moister than the wrapper the heat will cause the cigar to swell and crack the wrapper. If there air is very dry that can cause a similar effect. Like others said some wrappers are just delicate. I have noticed in the last 6 months or so that the quality of some brands seems to be going down hill. The wrappers on the Ave Maria I have been getting are shit compared to a year ago. You could try if you notice a specific brand or wrapper doing this you could try dry boxing it a day before smoking.
    @Tombstone pretty much summed it up!
    I wonder if the quality decline has something to do with C19. Either delays in shipping, or challenges with rollers at the factories.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nature View Post
    @Tombstone pretty much summed it up!
    I wonder if the quality decline has something to do with C19. Either delays in shipping, or challenges with rollers at the factories.


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    I have heard reports (Cigar Authority podcast) saying to expect quality to suffer as they rush to get cigars to market to catch up from the Covid shut downs. And one report said to be very careful as we may see the return of beetles as some cut the freeze times before shipping.
    No cigar until you get a par - birdie if it's a scramble !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombstone View Post
    If the insides of the cigar are a lot moister than the wrapper the heat will cause the cigar to swell and crack the wrapper. If there air is very dry that can cause a similar effect. Like others said some wrappers are just delicate. I have noticed in the last 6 months or so that the quality of some brands seems to be going down hill. The wrappers on the Ave Maria I have been getting are shit compared to a year ago. You could try if you notice a specific brand or wrapper doing this you could try dry boxing it a day before smoking.
    The problem is happening while in the humidor or from normal, gentle handling.
    They rarely seem to crack more while smoking, so I can't see rh being the cause

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrfoxx View Post
    The problem is happening while in the humidor or from normal, gentle handling.
    They rarely seem to crack more while smoking, so I can't see rh being the cause

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    I had made some assumptions from that first post and did not realize it was happening in the humidor. Tell us about your humidor. Is it wood box, wineador, tupperdore. How full do you keep it. What kind of humidification device do you use. Do you rotate your cigars in the humidor. A lower temp would not hurt. You only need the temp high enough to hold your preferred RH. Hot and humid will age cigars while a lower temp will slow down the process. I will have to check when I get home but I think I have some cigars that look rough from just sitting in the humidor. They tended to be in a humidor that was overall warmer and more humid. Then I have some in an identical humidor that tended to be stored in a cooler, drier humidor and that are older and look less rough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombstone View Post
    I had made some assumptions from that first post and did not realize it was happening in the humidor. Tell us about your humidor. Is it wood box, wineador, tupperdore. How full do you keep it. What kind of humidification device do you use. Do you rotate your cigars in the humidor. A lower temp would not hurt. You only need the temp high enough to hold your preferred RH. Hot and humid will age cigars while a lower temp will slow down the process. I will have to check when I get home but I think I have some cigars that look rough from just sitting in the humidor. They tended to be in a humidor that was overall warmer and more humid. Then I have some in an identical humidor that tended to be stored in a cooler, drier humidor and that are older and look less rough.
    Most of them are from my one remaining wooden humidor, but it has happened with ones in tupperdoors too.

    It typically sits at about 75% full.

    I use boveda packs for humidification

    I don't intentionally rotate the Cigars, but it happens once a month when I am digging around for my 30 Cigars for the month to go to the tray.

    Temp is stable year round at about 68 degrees, and is consistently at 65% rh.

    I plan to start making note of what the wrapper is on any it happens to to see if there is a pattern.

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