Firecrackers

[barry2guys]

So the story goes like this...

The Firecracker was the first cigar with a Fuse and there was plans to come out with various forms of the cigar. Pepin then made La Bomba which had a fuse and it turned into a little how do you do. So when the original firecracker sold out, it was time to make them again. Dave went to another factory, and changed the band up. All references to Pepin were removed. Now you can make an argument people didn't read the band and that the description no longer mentioned Pepin. Or you can argue that it wasn't put in bold "THESE ARE NO LONGER MADE BY PEPIN".

Long story short, this years limited edition Firecracker was made by LFD. Next year we might make them at another factory.

So thats the story behind the the Firecracker.

It was truly never the intention to mislead people and for those who felt 2 Guys did, I personally extend an apology.

[StogieNinja]

Now you can make an argument people didn't read the band and that the description no longer mentioned Pepin. Or you can argue that it wasn't put in bold "THESE ARE NO LONGER MADE BY PEPIN".

Or you could argue that using the phrase "Often imitated, never duplicated" as a headline was incredibly misleading, especially since the new Sinclair version actually was an imitation.

Or you could argue that using the phrase "The factory said I was "loco"" and never mentioning that any other factory was involved at any point implied that "the factory" hadn't changed.

Or you could argue that 2 Guys could have tried to change the look somehow (for example, changing any of the three colors on the band), instead of trying to mimic the DPG version as closely as possible.

Or you could argue that instead of just saying "This year we made a very limited amounts of a Maduro version" in the copy (making it sound like that was the only change) 2 Guys could have said "We moved factories this year, and are now making both a new Firecracker and a new maduro Firecracker."

You could argue any of those things, instead of just clinging to "we didn't use Pepin's name in the copy."


Now, all that being said...

It was truly never the intention to mislead people and for those who felt 2 Guys did, I personally extend an apology.

Barry, I have a lot of opinions about some of the things that have come from 2Guys/CigarAuthority, but I'm also of the opinion that a genuine apology goes a long way. This is the first of any kind of apology I've seen regarding the whole debacle, and I appreciate it.

[barry2guys]

Barry, I have a lot of opinions about some of the things that have come from 2Guys/CigarAuthority, but I'm also of the opinion that a genuine apology goes a long way. This is the first of any kind of apology I've seen regarding the whole debacle, and I appreciate it.

I'll be the first person to admit some of the stuff to come out of Mr. Jonathans mouth is asinine, but I will also tell you Dave is one of the most genuine people I ever met and easily hands down the greatest boss I ever had the privilege of working for. Things are changing here for the better but please don't lump the actions of one and the words to come out of his mouth as the gospel.

I've been around forums since 2007 or so, and all I ask is you judge me for who I am and then if I earn your trust, that maybe you give to thecigarauthority.com and/or 2 guys. With me, WYSIWYG (What You See Is What You Get).

See you around the forums, and maybe one day lighting one up with you.

[jhedrick83]

I've been around forums since 2007 or so, and all I ask is you judge me for who I am and then if I earn your trust, that maybe you give to thecigarauthority.com and/or 2 guys. With me, WYSIWYG (What You See Is What You Get).

See you around the forums, and maybe one day lighting one up with you.

Glad to have you here Barry.