The Liga 9's and 52's were beyond great back in the day....you know, when everyone one was poo-poo-ing them and I was groovn' on 'dem...'ya know, 'cause Drew made infused sticks so these must suck too......of course??? Guess I was right 'cause everyone and their mothers jumped on the bandwagon 'bout a year later and they were suddenly on the HTF agenda and guys were cutting their nuts off to get some. LMAO! They've gone downhill since...big time. Not the same stick any longer along with the price getting crazy. EZ to find now.....wonder why????????? Swisherrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr