Well that sucks...

[Branzig]

Make sure you contact your representatives, tell them that we won't accept the FDA overreaching. They will be reined in, or the reps will go home, plain and simple

Every time I have ever contacted my state rep about something tobacco related, all I get is a lame, generic "fill in the blank" letter sent to me. The letter is so cheesy that it's offending.

"Dear Mr. Branzig,

Thank you for contacting me on this very important topic! As your state rep it is wonderful to hear from you! I will work delegently to look into and solve this for you! Thanks for contacting me! Help you never!"

When it comes to tobacco, you lose. I'm honestly surprised it took them this long. Plus dope is the new revenue maker. The more they can push legalized Marijuana the better. Keep the kids off cigs, get them on weed. The tax is higher.

[Emperor Zurg]

Every time I have ever contacted my state rep about something tobacco related, all I get is a lame, generic "fill in the blank" letter sent to me. The letter is so cheesy that it's offending.

"Dear Mr. Branzig,

Thank you for contacting me on this very important topic! As your state rep it is wonderful to hear from you! I will work delegently to look into and solve this for you! Thanks for contacting me! Help you never!"

When it comes to tobacco, you lose. I'm honestly surprised it took them this long. Plus dope is the new revenue maker. The more they can push legalized Marijuana the better. Keep the kids off cigs, get them on weed. The tax is higher.

Branzig! Where u bin?!?

[AlanS]

[rodwha]

This is all ridiculous and obviously ought not to include premium cigars.

Contents: Tobacco.

[Demuths1770]

This is all ridiculous and obviously ought not to include premium cigars.

Contents: Tobacco.

when and IF FY 2017 Appropriations Bill gets passed premium cigars will be exempt from this process

[jhedrick83]

To a small degree I can understand the argument for regulation of vaping/e-cig products as they are a new industry and who the hell knows what goes into some of them. Full disclosure, I don't vape, I don't plan to ever take it up. How that's related to premium cigars I have no idea. Cole is right, there may be a benefit to the companies having to disclose their processes but it should be left at that. Let consenting adults make their own decisions.

[Hardheaded]

To a small degree I can understand the argument for regulation of vaping/e-cig products as they are a new industry and who the hell knows what goes into some of them. Full disclosure, I don't vape, I don't plan to ever take it up. How that's related to premium cigars I have no idea. Cole is right, there may be a benefit to the companies having to disclose their processes but it should be left at that. Let consenting adults make their own decisions.

I don't vape either, but my wife does. Some regulation and disclosure would be a good thing but what has been proposed by this would essentially only leave the big corporations left in that industry. And by big corporations, I mean the ones owned by the tobacco companies. There are dozens of small businesses in most cities that make and sell their own custom blends that would suddenly be forced to close shop because they cannot afford the FDA requirements.

Even if a submission was only$5000, with the way it is currently laid out as I understand it they would have to submit each flavor and nicotine level seperately. So for most places thats $45000 per flavor. Bear in mind the only difference between nicotine levels is how much of a nicotine concentrate they add. The local my wife uses has 40 flavors. Thats $1.8 million total, using an absurdly low nuber per submission.

Every aspect of this for cigars and vaping is a combination of cash grab and nanny state bs to appease the angry ignorant.

[Woodted]

Let consenting adults make their own decisions.

You know the government won't do that! We are too stupid to take care of ourselves!

[HIM]

but it should be left at that. Let consenting adults make their own decisions.

Exactly. Just be up front and let people make their own choices from there.

Some regulation and disclosure would be a good thing but what has been proposed by this would essentially only leave the big corporations left in that industry.

Thats the sad part of it all. I think most people are all for a little more transparency and appropriate regulation but this is likely big business pulling their shady antics instead of the type of change real people are willing to stand behind at the end of the day.

[jhedrick83]

Thats the sad part of it all. I think most people are all for a little more transparency and appropriate regulation but this is likely big business pulling their shady antics instead of the type of change real people are willing to stand behind at the end of the day.

Nailed it. Government isn't run by red and blue, it's run by green.