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    Of interest to lovers of ropes, tambo etc, I recommend the twist tobacco from Turkey Foot Trading. The company specializes in recreating clothing, tools an other things relevant to pioneer/revolutionary war America, and that includes authentic clay pipes and twist tobacco. Their twists are rather strong in nicotine and well-suited to the tiny bowls of clay pipes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haebar View Post
    I like the body and strength of a good rope tobacco, like the Gawith & Hoggarth Black Irish X that @OnePyroTec sent me, but I'm not crazy about cutting it up into pieces small enough to smoke in my pipe. It seems I can't get it right; when I cut it by hand, the pieces are too big and are hard to keep lit. When I used the coffee grinder, it divided it a little too finely. Does Gawith & Hoggarth make a ready-rubbed tobacco that has the same or similar strength as that of their ropes?
    Tab, @Aguineapig linked one of the Gawith & Hoggarth sliced ropes and there are several more available. I like the Curly Cut deLuxe Sliced quite well. The ropes do age better though.

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    Of interest to lovers of ropes, tambo etc, I recommend the twist tobacco from Turkey Foot Trading. The company specializes in recreating clothing, tools an other things relevant to pioneer/revolutionary war America, and that includes authentic clay pipes and twist tobacco. Their twists are rather strong in nicotine and well-suited to the tiny bowls of clay pipes.

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    Thanks for the link to Turkey Foot Trading. Their prices on the ropes are very reasonable. For those who didn't click the link, the descriptions says that it's a mild twist and they sell for (small) $6.80 for 1.5 oz and (large) $9.30 for 3.0 oz.

    edit: I'd suggest surfing this very neat site.
    Last edited by NeverBend; 10-07-2015 at 06:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeverBend View Post
    Tab, @Aguineapig linked one of the Gawith & Hoggarth sliced ropes and there are several more available. I like the Curly Cut deLuxe Sliced quite well. The ropes do age better though.



    Chris,
    Thanks for the link to Turkey Foot Trading. Their prices on the ropes are very reasonable. For those who didn't click the link, the descriptions says that it's a mild twist and they sell for (small) $6.80 for 1.5 oz and (large) $9.30 for 3.0 oz.
    At the risk of thread-jacking - Pete, maybe you can shed some light on something I've been wondering about ropes. They mostly seem to be uber-strong, and I've seen statements that they are the strongest tobaccos around. So it intrigues me that Turkey Foot is selling one they described as being mild. It seems to me that there's nothing inherently strong about ropes, and that it all depends on the tobacco type they use to begin with. And may that they become more dense and concentrated? Do blenders simply tend to use stronger tobaccos when they make ropes? And if so, is that due to tradition? Maybe sailors preferred the strong stuff?

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    Quote Originally Posted by c.ortiz108 View Post
    At the risk of thread-jacking - Pete, maybe you can shed some light on something I've been wondering about ropes. They mostly seem to be uber-strong, and I've seen statements that they are the strongest tobaccos around. So it intrigues me that Turkey Foot is selling one they described as being mild. It seems to me that there's nothing inherently strong about ropes, and that it all depends on the tobacco type they use to begin with. And may that they become more dense and concentrated? Do blenders simply tend to use stronger tobaccos when they make ropes? And if so, is that due to tradition? Maybe sailors preferred the strong stuff?
    Hi Chico,

    You pretty well answered yourself .

    I'm no scholar on the subject but I believe that Native Americans would put several tobacco leaves together (effectively blending) and twist them to smoke or chew. I don't know what method they used to cure the tobacco (I expect they did something). Tobaccos tended to be strong until about the middle of the nineteenth century when bright leaf (VA) evolved.

    The Gawiths (Sam and Hoggarth), make heavily compressed roped but it's the same idea as what the Native Americans did. Makes the flavors marry quickly and it's more stable than cut mixtures but the outer leaf is prone to flaking when dry. Gawith was a single company, purportedly beginning in 1792 (probably as a snuff maker), so their tradition was strong tobaccos. The company split but their roots were the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeverBend View Post
    Hi Chico,

    You pretty well answered yourself .

    I'm no scholar on the subject but I believe that Native Americans would put several tobacco leaves together (effectively blending) and twist them to smoke or chew. I don't know what method they used to cure the tobacco (I expect they did something). Tobaccos tended to be strong until about the middle of the nineteenth century when bright leaf (VA) evolved.

    The Gawiths (Sam and Hoggarth), make heavily compressed roped but it's the same idea as what the Native Americans did. Makes the flavors marry quickly and it's more stable than cut mixtures but the outer leaf is prone to flaking when dry. Gawith was a single company, purportedly beginning in 1792 (probably as a snuff maker), so their tradition was strong tobaccos. The company split but their roots were the same.

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    Thanks, Pete. I seem to remember at our previous home @Tobias Lutz making his own rope? Tobias, did that thread migrate over here? I'd be interested to see it again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by c.ortiz108 View Post
    Thanks, Pete. I seem to remember at our previous home @Tobias Lutz making his own rope? Tobias, did that thread migrate over here? I'd be interested to see it again.
    http://www.cigarbum.com/forum/the-do...iment-693.html


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    That's the one, thankee! An interesting read.

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