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    Jumpin’ Railcars and Collectin' Cans Shemp Jizzle's Avatar
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    make sure you dry out your baccy good. believe me when I say if it looks dry, dry it some more. if it looks really really dry then you good to go. also you may be puffing to fast. And if you smoking Aros they tend to be gooped up with extra topping that would cause a gurgle.
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    I definitely don't feel comfortable saying this, but in this case, I'm with the Shempster. Dry it thoroughly and that will do the most to depress the gurgle. As far as pipe cleaners, I just use one. I use one end to clear and collect any debris and then I leave the other end in there to absorb any residual moisture. I'll leave that end in there for about 24hrs.
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    It may be the moisture content that's making it happen.
    I smoke a lot of SG flakes and we all know how they come.

    Usually when I get home from work, I'll lay out a flake. Then about 3 hours later I'll rub it out and smoke it. It may just not be enough time.

    I'll also watch out for breathing into the stem like Tobias mentioned. That likely happens often as well.

    I'll take @Shemp Jizzle advice and try to dry it out until it looks too dry. I don't know why I have such a fear of that. For some reason I think if I dry it too much the flavor will be gone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cool Breeze View Post
    I'll lay out a flake. Then about 3 hours later I'll rub it out and smoke it.
    I know you want to look at a mason jar and see all the pretty flakes in complete form but i have pre rubbed flakes and let the whole tin room dry for 1-2 hours and just jar them ready rubbed. Flakes hide a ton of moisture.

    cuts the drying time in half when you get the yearning for a bowl.
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    I've actually thought about that before and I think I will try that.

    Have you, or anyone else here ever tried the cubed method where you cut it with scissors? I was wondering about that as well.
    I saw a Youtube video where a guy let the flakes dry for a few hours, then cut them up in cubes and jarred them.
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    I've cut up flake and coins with scissors but didn't try to make cubes. It makes it easier to rub out and speeds the drying time.

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    I like my pipe tobaccy as wet as an otter's pocket, so I just deal with gurgle and have learned to like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ropey View Post
    I like my pipe tobaccy as wet as an otter's pocket, so I just deal with gurgle and have learned to like it.

    I'll start with this caveat, whatever works for you is what's right but there are technical reasons that create gurgle that aren’t being addressed. I intend no offense to anyone’s preferred methods or technique.

    Every smoker gurgles at one time or another. On another forum one fellow claims that a larger draught hole solves the problem. Perhaps for him but I don’t give a whit about the size because it doesn't affect my smoke. I use pipe cleaners to absorb moisture and clear the airway during the smoke. You should too. Do it as many times as you feel necessary. I reuse the cleaner unless it’s gets too moist or dirty.

    There are many reasons for gurgle including:

    1. Excessive salivation that flows into the stem (more common for clenchers).
    2. Tobacco too tightly packed at the bottom of the bowl.
    3. Draught hole too low in the tobacco chamber.
    4. A partial obstruction of the chamber airway by a piece of tobacco that gets excessively moist from it’s position and the airflow. This wet piece of tobacco is both felt and heard as gurgle as you smoke.


    Other than #3, the smoker can control the other factors. #4 is, in my experience, the most common reason for gurgle and the larger air passage of the cob, because it’s more difficult to obscure, gurgles less (or not at all). The same reason that the smoker who likes larger drill size has reduced gurgle. Hopefully the following will help you reduce gurgle with any pipe.

    #1 - Saliva and less so, moist tobacco, can get the tobacco wet but without a reservoir (#3) it will only make smoking through the dottle more difficult rather than causing gurgle. Of course if you submerge the thing in saliva, well...

    #2 - Tightly packed tobacco (bottom of the bowl) or excessive tamping presses tobacco against the airway and causes problem #4. Try packing more lightly and tamp gingerly and gradually.

    #3 - This is a technical problem that allows moisture to pool (even if only slightly) and it can augment or outright cause gurgle. Unless you want to mess with drilling the chamber lower (DON’T do this) you’ll just have to do the best that you can.

    #4 - Fill the bottom of the bowl loosely with larger pieces of moist tobacco so that you don’t produce flakes that can obstruct airflow. Tamping pushes the tobacco and it may block the airway.

    I mean no offense but drying and (excessive) rubbing of tobacco is a crutch that causes some problems. Dry tobacco loses flavor and nuance. It burns faster and hotter. Over rubbed, dry tobacco produces particles that can obstruct the airway or end up in your mouth as little missiles.

    I have NO idea what an Otter’s Pocket is but I’m with Ropey and I smoke my tobacco moist and keep it humidified after opening. The flavors of moist tobacco are more crisp and alive and I have better control filling my bowl. Yes, I occasionally have problems but more when the tobacco is dry. Dry tobacco does light better so perhaps fill with moist tobacco and leave the pipe for a while to let the top layer dry a bit. Best of both worlds.

    If your pipe is gurgling and you use a pipe tool to clear the tobacco away from the airway you should find that it has stopped gurgling.

    When I refer to moist tobacco I mean as it is when opened or close to that level of moisture but not soggy. You know what I mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeverBend View Post
    I have NO idea what an Otter’s Pocket is...
    But it is a catchy turn of phrase. A nifty bit of alliteration, a cunning linguistic, blah, blah, blah

    sry, Meds a re kikcin in.
    Last edited by Griz; 08-24-2015 at 03:37 PM.

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    When I get gurgling, that's my cue to slow down and let the fire cool. Meanwhile, to dissipate the existing liquid, what I do is roll the pipe around (keeping it mainly upright) to let the excess liquid adhere to the sides of the bowl and soak in. I've never heard of anyone else doing this, which leads me to ask, is this wrong?
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