Vacuum Sealing

[Tgs679]

Mylar

[Aguineapig]

You can cram quite a bit into mason jars. Flakes are also another obvious choice for effeciency sake. I have 20 lbs cellared now, 99% of which is in jars, and it can get kind of expensive to buy jars. if I were to do it over again, I'd just cellar everything in quart jars. Now I only put the stuff prone to age really, really well long term in 8 ounce jars, since I don't need to interrupt aging for more than a few ounces. Everything else is going in quart jars.

[Lostmason]

Just to chime in my two cents, that tobacco Tab sent, I don't really remember the flavors.
But, I do remember the burning numbness. Tried washing it and letting it dry, no go.
No amount of drying time helped. It was saturated with that chemicle number.
You know with meats you wrap in wax paper then foil, maybe a wax paper pouch with
the tobacco then slide it in a vacuum bag.

[indigosmoke]

If you do vacuum seal, you may want to leave a little air in the bag to allow the tobacco to age. Per this from GLP:

"Vacuum sealing is great for vegetables and coffee, but is pointless for tobacco. Tobacco needs some air to be locked in with it , at least to begin with, in order for it to age. A perfectly vacuum sealed container will likely keep the tobacco "fresh," but it may not really age the way we expect it to. I'm more than a little suspicious about the heavy plastic "bags" used by most of these machines. They hold moisture in just fine, but they really don't prevent gas exchange, and I'm not sure they're truly able to stand the test of time. Tins are best. Jars are a close second. The special high barrier bags we used for a while for our 8oz packaging have several layers, each designed to be impenetrable to a different sort of molecule. I've conducted extended tests with this material, and am satisified that the tobacco will age nearly, if not as well as in the tins, at least for the short term. They are only slightly evacuted to facilitate packing and sealing. For best long-term aging, though, I still recommend tins." - GLP

[Pugsley]

In addition to the new FDA regs there's another reason to start buying in bulk soon. On the ballot here in California is Proposition 56 which is expected to pass by a wide margin. This is from the official voter's guide:

" A YES vote on this measure means: State excise tax on cigarettes would increase by $2 per pack—from 87 cents to $2.87. State excise tax on other tobacco products would increase by a similar amount. State excise tax also would be applied to electronic cigarettes."

Everything is about to get a lot more expensive.

[Aguineapig]

In addition to the new FDA regs there's another reason to start buying in bulk soon. On the ballot here in California is Proposition 56 which is expected to pass by a wide margin. This is from the official voter's guide:

" A YES vote on this measure means: State excise tax on cigarettes would increase by $2 per pack—from 87 cents to $2.87. State excise tax on other tobacco products would increase by a similar amount. State excise tax also would be applied to electronic cigarettes."

Everything is about to get a lot more expensive.

Yes, it's not just losing some of the newer great blends due to the FDA deeming date. Taxation is my bigger concern, along with my favorite companies potentially closing due to cost of manufacturer etc.. Up in new brunswick Canada, a pouch of Amphora is about 35 dollars. Australia and new zealand are much worse. And if US prices go, we don't have the luxury that Canucks do, to buy in the US and bring it back, or aussies ordering from 4noggins etc. It'd be a game changer.

I've been stocking up on inexpensive, meat and potatoes bulk from D&R, Stokkebye and C&D for a few years. wish I had more than 20lbs but it's better than nothing.

[Pugsley]

Yes, it's not just losing some of the newer great blends due to the FDA deeming date. Taxation is my bigger concern, along with my favorite companies potentially closing due to cost of manufacturer etc.. Up in new brunswick Canada, a pouch of Amphora is about 35 dollars. Australia and new zealand are much worse. And if US prices go, we don't have the luxury that Canucks do, to buy in the US and bring it back, or aussies ordering from 4noggins etc. It'd be a game changer.

I've been stocking up on inexpensive, meat and potatoes bulk from D&R, Stokkebye and C&D for a few years. wish I had more than 20lbs but it's better than nothing.

I have hundreds of tins of tobacco, which has always been my preferred method of buying and aging it, but I wonder how long it would last if I could no longer afford to replace it. It seems the smart move is to change my ways and buy in bulk now while I still can.

[Aguineapig]

I have hundreds of tins of tobacco, which has always been my preferred method of buying and aging it, but I wonder how long it would last if I could no longer afford to replace it. It seems the smart move is to change my ways and buy in bulk now while I still can.

I bought some tins at the beginning before realizing how drastic the difference was in terms of cost/oz. I traded most of them away, so I wouldn't fall in love with tin only offerings. Especially if you are vigilant and catch the good deals, it's a huge difference even factoring in jars. I got 5 lbs of lane limited ready rubbed recently for a dollar an ounce with free shipping. I could have bought 8 pease tins, or a few more of something cheaper like orlik, but instead I ended up with 5 times the ounceage. Then came 5lbs of D&R tobaccos for 87 shipped. IT's all about watching for the good deals. McClellands I don't care for, and they were (for a while) almost twice as spendy as C&D, and you ended up getting more water weight with the McC due to more humectant use in their bulks, so it's easy to spend a ton on bulk too, but not as much so. On deck sometime is a 5lb bag of Macbaren Golden extra, just waiting for the coupon codes necessary to get it under 120$. the list goes and on with regards to great economical gems.

I do think baccy ages a little bit nicer in the tins, but not enough to make up for the cost difference give that I am an extreme penny pincher. Unfortunately I did fall for Pease Key largo, so I'll need to grab a few tins of that =D

[Bruck]

Good info, tnx, y'all.

I've been using the plastic containers that Chinese take-out soup comes in (with a piece of tape over the little hole they poke in the top), for some of my tobaccos. Perhaps I should scrounge up / invest in some more jars and ditch the plastic.

Granted, I just keep short-term tobacco for semi-immediate use, but over time, short-term tends to become long-term