I have a friend with a nice woodworking shop who made them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc L
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I have a friend with a nice woodworking shop who made them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc L
This is true. I'll just grab a few different sizes and see which one works.Quote:
Originally Posted by GDaddy
Need to do this as well, currently cutting them with scissors, please post back if 1/2 inch works for 48-50 rg.Quote:
Originally Posted by HIM
I'm thinking about giving this a go. Is this kit a good place to start...it says it's good for 8 cigars, but wondering how many of the first 8 will be complete garbage with a total noob rolling? Should I start with more tobacco?
https://www.leafonly.com/cigar-tobac...ng-starter-kit
Here is a video.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigaar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubCWB_nrF3w
... and keep these in mind. they will not last. whole leaf blends
That's probably as good a way to get started as any. Realistically, you're probably going to "invest" a certain amount of time and materials before you get good at it, i.e., don't expect to come out of this with 8 Davidoffs :) If the RYO bug catches hold of you, you'll be getting more tobacco and better supplies/equipment, and end up saving a ton of cash in the long run. But if not, well, not too big a loss.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigaar
I keep detailed notes, and since I started a little over a year ago, I've rolled 277 cigars at a total cost of $630, $402 of which is in consumables, mostly the tobacco itself.
I recommend this kit... http://wholeleaftobacco.com/Terroso-...o-CgrBlnd4.htmQuote:
Originally Posted by Sigaar
Ive been rolling this blend but wrapped in broadleaf and its really damn good. The flavor profile is in line with a lot of $8-10 cigars IMO. The kit is cheaper than the one you posted and you should get ~20 cigars out of it. By the time you go through the kit you'll know whether you want to keep up with the hobby and should also have a better handle on the rolling process. I destroyed a lot of leaf in the learning curve and only having 8 cigars worth of leaf would have basically left me with nothing.
FWIW a buddy of mine on another forum picked up this kit with a lb of PA Oscuro binder on my recommendation and he's hooked.
Just wanted to add... I have the Cameroon wrapper Leaf Only offers and they are pretty small. They can wrap a corona but not by much.
I started with the whole leaf Terroso Kit as well, they do make really good tasting cigars. Aside from the leaf you really only need a good sized cutting board, some scissors, some xanthan gum powder (gluten free section at walmart... a little goes a long way) and a nice sharp non-wobbly pizza cutter. Molds can be constructed from PVC pipe with some pipe clamps. You can buy some, or you can use a technique called paper rolling and skip molds altogether.
I highly suggest watching @GDaddy 's videos. The first two times i rolled I had them on ytube on my tv and was watching them as i went through the process.
Hey guys,
This is John from Leaf Only (www.leafonly.com).
I see some awesome looking sticks on here - great work guys. I'm impressed!
If anybody has any questions about our leaves, products, or anything at all really, let me know and I will do my best to answer! I don't know everything there is to know, but I've learned a lot over the past 5 years that might help anyone on the RYO journey. Take care!
Hi John,
Good to see you here.
Well to Cigar Bum!
Really cool to see you on board John welcome to Cigar Bum!! Is there any chance you guys will start carrying piloto cubano?Quote:
Originally Posted by Leaf Only John
Piloto would be a nice addition however, he does have a pretty nice selection as it is. Bruck sent me a cigar using the Colombian seco and I liked it very much. The Honduran is flavorful also. The Brazilian wrapper is next on my list.Quote:
Originally Posted by HIM
I use his Volado as binder in almost every cigar. For combustion only. Tight burn lines.
Welcome John!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Leaf Only John
A suggestion that I believe would be very helpful would be more descriptive flavor profiles of the tobacco and a strength rating of 0 to 10. Volado (1) Nicaraguan ligero (10) etc... With as many selections you have it can be difficult to decide. Thoughts to ponder.
He definitely has a lot of good leaf. Love the broadleaf wrapper.Quote:
Originally Posted by GDaddy
1) BIG SHAME ON OUR MARKETING DEPARTMENT (namely, me) - All of our Dominican fillers are actually of Piloto Cubano seed. I think I recall seeing a few bales of Criollo in the past, but based on what I saw today, it's all PC.
2) Thanks for the suggestion GDaddy! Definitely something we will consider. The biggest challenge in that is just getting the numbers right, especially with crop and leaf variances. Something for us to work on for sure! The problem you're describing has always been one of the biggest issues I've had with our site / business as we've grown. So much going on, it's hard even for experienced rollers to see everything. I imagine that for someone who's never tried it, we might be losing business of that... Oh well - going to just keep buying more types and add to the confusion. :)
3) Speaking of which, I've got a line on some San Andreas Mexican Wrapper that's supposed to be coming in soon. Can't wait to see the samples!
One other point to make as you add to the selection in the future. There only 2 ligeros to choose from. Plenty of other selections but one more ligero would be nice. If you come across the Criollo 98 ligero it is excellent. I understand ligero is used in a smaller amount. IMO it's a big flavor component and people shouldn't be afraid of it and be encouraged to use more of it in their blends. IMHO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leaf Only John
Well thats damn good news! Ive gotten hooked on the sweet spice and vanilla character I get from piloto its delicious. And +1 on the criollo 98 ligero so far its my favorite of the 3 ligeros Ive tried.
Welcome, John!Quote:
Originally Posted by Leaf Only John
I'm one of your regular (but low volume) customers. Bought my first set of leaves from you last year. Keep up the good work!
Does anyone know if the Ecuadorian Habano wrapper at Leaf Only is the same variety as the Ecuadorian maduro WLT had? Never got to try the stuff from WLT but it sounds like a tasty wrapper.
@Leaf Only John might be able to help there.Quote:
Originally Posted by HIM
I'm not sure if he'd know since the other leaf is from a different vendor and hasn't been available for a little while now. But if he's got answers I won't complain lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by jhedrick83
Hey guys - you're right, I don't know for SURE, but based on the picture and his description, it looks to be similar if not the same. Specifically the MIDDLE leaf of his picture looks just like our Ecuadorian Ligero (https://www.leafonly.com/tobacco-lea...o-leaf-wrapper), but the other two look more like Connecticut broadleaf. Hard to know if it's EXACTLY the same, but if it isn't, it's got to be VERY close.
Hope that helps!
@LeafOnlyJohn has the Nicaraguan Ligero always been Criollo 98? I have some Nica ligero and viso I got from you ~6 months ago and have thought it was Nicaraguan Habano for some reason.
Edit - I think I found my answer. Im smelling the Nica ligero and the criollo 98 ligero I have side by side right now and they are nothing alike at all. I know leaf changes farm to farm and country to country but these don't have any similarities I can't imagine them being the same strain of tobacco.
I haven't rolled any for quite a while, but it's definitely something I enjoy.
My goal is to home-roll the bulk of my NC consumption, and spend the money I save to upscale my imaginary purchases.
It was when you got into this that I knew it was something we needed to highlight and support. You were very much on my mind when I built this subforum. I have no doubt that what you're rolling is probably every bit as good as what can be had off the shelf. I can imagine that the enjoyment derived from the simply "doing" of it can be as enticing as the hobby itself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Lancerolot
Good to see you back, Mike :D
@Herf N Turf I gotta send you a sample of the new blend Ive been rolling. I think a lot about the stick I sent you and honestly kind of feel bad now knowing how it doesn't even compare. I feel like its a wrong I have to right lol.
Nothing wrong on my end, Cole. It's all good.Quote:
Originally Posted by HIM
Finally getting around to trying some new wrappers out. Got leaf coming up to case for tomorrow... will wrap in Ecuadorian Habano 2000, San Andreas, and Criollo 98.
I got to wrapping with the Ecuadorian Habano ligero yesterday. Doesn't feel like it has a lot of stretch but its a lot easier to work with than broadleaf. Texture and thickness reminds me of a nice leaf of WLT Dominican binder. Will smoke my first sample either later tonight or some point this weekend and update with some tasting notes. @GDaddy I know you were interested in this wrapper. I think it was pretty easy to work with and won't have any issue burning. The criollo 98 ligero is definitely thicker.
I'm looking forward to your updates Cole. I really like the San Andreas wrappers. a little tricky but, not like other cigars I've had with them.
Yes, please let me know. It looks really interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by HIM
The criollo ligero is a little thicker and it comes out a little rougher in appearance but I like that look. I've enjoyed several of the criollo ligero wraps. I've also done some Honduran ligero as wrapper also and it was really good.
Can't wait to hear!
This wrapper goes really nice over this blend. This blend in broadleaf is nuttier with more cocoa. The Habano 2000 brings out more of the peppery notes in the Corojo with a bit of sweet spice and a little more strength and body.
Blend - 3 Nica criollo 98 ligero(leafonly)
3 Corojo 99 seco(WLT)
Dom Binder(WLT)
Ecuadorian Habano ligero(leafonly)
Attachment 2959
Marc - are the ones w/o labels your creations?
Yes. I was trying to get as close in color as I could. the labeled one is from a double press half box $52 eBay score. good times!
OK, tnx, very nice looking smokes!
My hand is up but I haven't anything yet to show.
Maybe back then. Your on the roll now and doing well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Randy956