Tips, Advice, & Suggestions Sought

[rodwha]

I noticed that the Maduro CT combo uses 2 different kinds of wrapper as it shows 1/4 lb CT 1DW Maduro and 1/4 lb Premium Shade under wrappers, along with 1/2 lb CT LS Broadleaf binder and 1 lb of CT filler (unknown type as I didn't see it in their "by the pound" offerings as such.

So what's the deal with this wrapper situation???

I'll have to keep the Brazilian Maduro in mind. Thanks! Happen to know of an inexpensive commercial rolled smoke using it? Nothing full flavor...

[Sir Lancerolot]

I noticed that the Maduro CT combo uses 2 different kinds of wrapper as it shows 1/4 lb CT 1DW Maduro and 1/4 lb Premium Shade under wrappers, along with 1/2 lb CT LS Broadleaf binder and 1 lb of CT filler (unknown type as I didn't see it in their "by the pound" offerings as such.

So what's the deal with this wrapper situation???

I'll have to keep the Brazilian Maduro in mind. Thanks! Happen to know of an inexpensive commercial rolled smoke using it? Nothing full flavor...

Famous Smoke's final blend is a good budget example. CAO Brazilia might be a little truer to the flavor standard, but costs a little more as well.

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[rodwha]

I have two sizes of Boveda packs. One is maybe 1.5 X 1.5" and the other is maybe something like 4x 4" or so. I'm clueless as to which these are. Looking on Amazon I see 8 and 60 gram packs. I figured the 60's are about what I'd want to keep up to a pound of leaves nicely. What say you?

[Marc L]

I have two sizes of Boveda packs. One is maybe 1.5 X 1.5" and the other is maybe something like 4x 4" or so. I'm clueless as to which these are. Looking on Amazon I see 8 and 60 gram packs. I figured the 60's are about what I'd want to keep up to a pound of leaves nicely. What say you?

The size area recommendation seems to be large humi for that size but, whats nice is that they are two way humidification. It makes most sense to me to use them on finished cigars. I like the more hands on approach of doing it by feel giving that there are variant needs in preparing leaf.

[rodwha]

The size area recommendation seems to be large humi for that size but, whats nice is that they are two way humidification. It makes most sense to me to use them on finished cigars. I like the more hands on approach of doing it by feel giving that there are variant needs in preparing leaf.

So what would you use to keep your leaves moist if you have no room in a humidor?

The 8 gram packs come 10 to a pack and I wondered about using 2-3 in a 1/4-1/2 lb bag and 4 in a pound.

[Marc L]

So what would you use to keep your leaves moist if you have no room in a humidor?

The 8 gram packs come 10 to a pack and I wondered about using 2-3 in a 1/4-1/2 lb bag and 4 in a pound.

Leaves out of the bag get sorted and misted directly on planks of wood 14 by 33 in.

Most fillers don't need further ammonia aeration so, the idea is to get the wrinkles out and brought down to a storage case which is maybe a little dry for rolling. the whole lot will get stacked and put into 2.5 gal zip-locks and then into kitchen bags until I'll go to use it. these bags go in huge tubs. I will keep checking to make sure the case stays right.

Rolling prep I use 9.4 L tubs. I'll spray the inside to maintain humidity.
Its all by feel.

[rodwha]

Leaves out of the bag get sorted and misted directly on planks of wood 14 by 33 in.

Most fillers don't need further ammonia aeration so, the idea is to get the wrinkles out and brought down to a storage case which is maybe a little dry for rolling. the whole lot will get stacked and put into 2.5 gal zip-locks and then into kitchen bags until I'll go to use it. these bags go in huge tubs. I will keep checking to make sure the case stays right.

Rolling prep I use 9.4 L tubs. I'll spray the inside to maintain humidity.
Its all by feel.

I must admit I'm at a bit of a loss concerning most of that.

[rodwha]

Well, yes and no. I had never heard of ammonia aeration. I Googled it and didn't find a direct answer I believe I understand. I had wondered about the smell I sometimes noticed with some of the leaves I had. I didn't know I'd want to let them aerate.

I also didn't know anyone worked with the filler leaves to remove wrinkles.

I am a bit lost as to misting the leaves and storing them in ziplock bags. I had noticed the Boveda pack I had in with my binder leaves wasn't working well so I decided to moisten a paper towel with distilled water while I worked to rehydrate the packs. A few days later and I had a little bit of mold on the ends of the leaves. I suppose it seems harder to keep a proper balance without having issues like that, especially if they sit for a while before use.

Your 9.4L tub gets misted prior to setting what you intend to use into it, and that keeps them good for the present time?

I've just kept my leaves in the bags they came in dropping old Boveda packs I rehydrated into them, and those were dropped in a paper sack and left in my fermentation chamber that's set to 65*.

[Marc L]

Well, yes and no. I had never heard of ammonia aeration. I Googled it and didn't find a direct answer I believe I understand. I had wondered about the smell I sometimes noticed with some of the leaves I had. I didn't know I'd want to let them aerate.

Most filler wont need it. however, binder and wrapper are given less fermentation for the manufacture to do because of the degrading nature of fermentation.

I also didn't know anyone worked with the filler leaves to remove wrinkles.

"( flatten because you'll want to make sure there are no crinkly hard bits so you can fully control your assembly for optimum draw and burn )"

I am a bit lost as to misting the leaves and storing them in ziplock bags. I had noticed the Boveda pack I had in with my binder leaves wasn't working well so I decided to moisten a paper towel with distilled water while I worked to rehydrate the packs. A few days later and I had a little bit of mold on the ends of the leaves. I suppose it seems harder to keep a proper balance without having issues like that, especially if they sit for a while before use.

Keep in mind I'm opening 1 lb bags at a time. dry leaf can go without maintenance but the higher the case, the more you'll want to watch it. It can mold and degrade to dust.

Your 9.4L tub gets misted prior to setting what you intend to use into it, and that keeps them good for the present time?

Yes but they are going to get assembled soon. what's good about the tubs is that I can stop, close the tubs and, do something else, come back to it without losing any case.

I've just kept my leaves in the bags they came in dropping old Boveda packs I rehydrated into them, and those were dropped in a paper sack and left in my fermentation chamber that's set to 65*.

Is that 65˚ degrees or, 65 RH?

[rodwha]

65* F

It's a converted 7 cu ft chest freezer for fermenting beer. Figure the temp is about perfect for keeping cigars, whiskey, and my beer grains which don't really need to be kept cool anyway.