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    Quote Originally Posted by anthony d View Post
    Interesting, because I haven't had a single issue with my Lotus. But yes, I agree on the XiKar comment. Have had two of them, neither has lasted very long before I needed the warranty.
    While I do admit I have used my Xikar warranty for my lighters and my cutters. The first lighter was the Enigma. Had it for almost 10 years before I used the warranty. It still worked fine but looked like it had been through a war. I bought it pre fake leather sheath era. They didnt ask any questions just sent me the enigma II with a leather pouch. I have had that one for about 6 years now with no issues at all. I have a second lighter from Xikar, the ELX its currently only 2 years old but also no problems at all. My first cutter was the Xi and it too was over 10 years old when the blades got dull I sent it in and got a new one no questions asked. It too was pre leather pouch era and now has the pouch without my having to ask for it. Maybe I am just lucky with them but their customer service blew Colibri, Dunhill, and Prometheus. All of which they eventually fixed for a service fee and all were less then 2 years old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dijit View Post
    While I do admit I have used my Xikar warranty for my lighters and my cutters. The first lighter was the Enigma. Had it for almost 10 years before I used the warranty. It still worked fine but looked like it had been through a war. I bought it pre fake leather sheath era. They didnt ask any questions just sent me the enigma II with a leather pouch. I have had that one for about 6 years now with no issues at all. I have a second lighter from Xikar, the ELX its currently only 2 years old but also no problems at all. My first cutter was the Xi and it too was over 10 years old when the blades got dull I sent it in and got a new one no questions asked. It too was pre leather pouch era and now has the pouch without my having to ask for it. Maybe I am just lucky with them but their customer service blew Colibri, Dunhill, and Prometheus. All of which they eventually fixed for a service fee and all were less then 2 years old.
    Wouldn't the Xikar lighters be a little less $$$ if they weren't replacing 10yo lighters that were working perfectly fine?
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    I have a Xikar ELX in gunmetal and it is a dual torch. My B&M had it for $80 but I've seen it cheaper online.

    It's basically the updated Element, I'm told.

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    My first Element lighter didn't even last a year...
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    I am not one to get too excited about lighters or cutters, or anything else like that, so I definitely would recommend something on the less expensive side...therefore, I like the Vertigos and JetLines, as well as the Ronson dual jet lighter...spend ten, twenty bux, no more...it's a simple job it has to do! A cheap lighter produces flame just like the high end ones...sure, the better ones have warranties, but what works better for me is to have several lighters scattered about where I need them to be. A couple in the truck...one at the hot tub...one on the ashtray in the garage...a couple in the war bag. If one of 'em gets lost, no biggie...

    I have one higher end one...works as good as the cheap ones, but that's just me. To me, I can spend $150 on a lighter...or on a box of premium ceegars...hmmmmm...lets see here...

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    Hello Anthony, hope your enjoying that Lotus Apollo

    The Lotus L53 Scorpion may fit your needs.

    I picked up a gray one last year and it's one of my favorite lighters. It's dual flame comes to a point (think upside V) and functions well as a cigar lighter. It has a fuel window, fold out cigar punch and it lights by hitting the "start" button. It's a single stage lighter as the cover opens and the lighter lights with a single push of the start button. I can light about 6 cigars on a full tank and I'm heavy on butane as I do a full toast to completely light a cigar which takes a little longer standard lighting methods so I use more fuel.

    If you need any more details, feel free to let me know.


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    Yeah, I am thinking of another Lotus for sure.
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    Maybe a little. Most companies play a service life for an item and hope it lasts that long. Good companies warranty their items for that period. The best companies charge a premium and warranty their items for life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dijit View Post
    Maybe a little. Most companies play a service life for an item and hope it lasts that long. Good companies warranty their items for that period. The best companies charge a premium and warranty their items for life.
    Not to be a dick but I'm pretty sure Xikar doesn't warranty pocket wear and tear on a 10yo lighter. I use to know a guy that bought all his clothes from L L Bean and would get free replacements every 6 months or so.
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    Well maybe they just liked the fact I was loyal after 10 years. I just know I sent an enigma back after emailing them and they sent me an enigma II because they didn't make or repair the enigma. I must admit it wasn't free. It cost me $5 in postage. They sent the sheath to keep it in also so the finish wouldn't look so bad in the future. Believe it or not doesn't matter to me I get nothing from them except a good product and great customer service. In return they get my loyalty. Something many other manufacturers have not been able to earn like colibri or palio.
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