CI "Fake" Cigars?

[jp1979]

I saw this vid. He was not claiming it was long filler. His review/comments/dissection were related to the quality of the short filler, which appear rather unappetizing in the video.

So his point was a comparison of how quality short filler should appear compared to the floor scraps discovered within.

He titled the video, "cheap fake cigars". I don't see where the cigar is fake, the short filler is just really short

[R1100RS]

I saw this vid. He was not claiming it was long filler. His review/comments/dissection were related to the quality of the short filler, which appear rather unappetizing in the video.

So his point was a comparison of how quality short filler should appear compared to the floor scraps discovered within.

I don't know Matt, go to his website and read the main title and paragraph about these and see what you think then...

[MattyMatt]

I don't know Matt, go to his website and read the main title and paragraph about these and see what you think then...

I agree that the titling and description is sensationalism and innacurate. And thanks for pointing that out as I originally saw the vid when it was part of a cigars for warrior update video. This new posting is something I had not read yet.

The cigar quality is crap though and a poor example of quality short filler. I get bigger pieces out of a bottle of oregeno. Probably would have been better to describe the video as poor quality short filler vs good quality. The "fake" angle was wrong to use.

[R1100RS]

and at :53 in this vid he says its a Los Blancos Premium (it's premiere according to the websites) and says it is billed as a long filler...

[Marc L]

The first thing I thought was "did he just get here". I mean Bryan does seem to have a need for coming to conclusions swiftly. then, when there was no other references to long fillers anywhere, I thought wow, Trish and her buddies sure changed the descriptions fast after seeing that video. then I thought, no, maybe he has associated the "Premiere" in the title with "premium" which is an adjective or more to point, an opinion?

Maybe more to the point is, most can't handle the truth.

[TCBSmokes]

Well, on the one hand, they are not one of his advertisers and I'd be more impressed if he conducted the same experiment on one of their offerings. But on the other, I did see a video where he dismantled a Padron on the rumor some were filled with stems and he did prove it to be the case with that stick.

But I guess in the end, let's face it, we Are smoking leaves and the bottom line is a natural product is going to have some imperfections, or else it wouldn't be natural. It would be an orange. Which really isn't so orange, is it?

[HIM]

Well, on the one hand, they are not one of his advertisers and I'd be more impressed if he conducted the same experiment on one of their offerings. But on the other, I did see a video where he dismantled a Padron on the rumor some were filled with stems and he did prove it to be the case with that stick.

I wanted to point out that while leaf is frog legged part of the mid rib is left in the leaf to help give structure to the cigar. All cigars have stems in them. He could have saved the cigar and just looked up any video on youtube of people rolling cigars and watched the way they bunch the leaf.
I don't see why he's making such a fuss over a cigar that costs as much as a Dutch Master. My Big Mac doesn't look like the one in the commercials does either, is this really a surprise?

[Branzig]

My Big Mac doesn't look like the one in the commercials does either, is this really a surprise?

Great analogy. It's even better when you consider the fact that the Big Mac probably doesn't have hamburger in it either haha

Anyway, coming from this guy, I don't care. But man, what a great way to get hiw views up and nab a couple more subscribers!

(that's the business Brian is in)

[garublador]

My Big Mac doesn't look like the one in the commercials does either, is this really a surprise?

I'm a bit on the fence on this one. I totally agree that it's in the same ballpark as the McDonald's (and a vast majority of all restaurants) example, but I also think that we don't hold marketing to a high enough standard. While it isn't surprising, I don't think it's right. Either way, it probably isn't a huge deal and it won't affect how I purchase cigars in the least. It's also a consumer's duty to be informed.

The problem is that noobs will think they're buying premium cigars at a discount, will smoke them, dislike them, and swear off cigars forever. Then there will be one more person (or thousands, if it happens a lot) who doesn't care at all when cigars are legislated out of existence.

I suspect that doesn't happen all that much. It isn't really in anyone's best interest. What's the point in losing customers over minimal revenue?

Mostly I just like the irony that the guy in the video is critical of someone being misleading in their advertising, but then gave his video a misleading title.

[TCBSmokes]

I wanted to point out that while leaf is frog legged part of the mid rib is left in the leaf to help give structure to the cigar. All cigars have stems in them. He could have saved the cigar and just looked up any video on youtube of people rolling cigars and watched the way they bunch the leaf.
I don't see why he's making such a fuss over a cigar that costs as much as a Dutch Master. My Big Mac doesn't look like the one in the commercials does either, is this really a surprise?

Tell that to this guy. lol.

https://video.search.yahoo.com/video...&hsimp=yhs-004