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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Lancerolot View Post
    Until a few weeks ago I had never tried a cigar in the morning. I always waited until afternoon or evening. The idea of a morning smoke didn't really grab me.

    But recently my schedule and my advanced age have contributed to making me too tired most evenings to enjoy a smoke, so I missed out on a lot of evening cigars. Finally I decided that if I was going to have a cigar, it would have to be in the morning on a day off.

    Now, I love a good glass of wine or port with a cigar, and drinking in the morning isn't my thing, so I wondered how I would work that out.

    Well, based upon what others have mentioned over the years, and on what made sense as I thought about it, I figured I'd try a pretty light, sweet smoke for a morning cigar. And that flavor profile pairs nicely with green tea, or even yerba mate for a more medium smoke.

    Color me converted. I roll a blend of Dominican and Sumatran fillers in an Indonesian Besuki wrapper that is sweet, creamy, mild, and just a little spicy. Perfect with tea and perfect for a morning. There is also a particular (and particularly inexpensive) variety of cigars-that-shall-not-be-named that turn to honey and vanilla creaminess after a couple of years in hiding. These, too (if indeed they exist, which we all know they do not), are perfect with tea and pre-noon sunshine. Even my beloved Curly Heads and Short Stories make decent morning smokes.
    Sumatra, Sumatra...don't hear much about that wrapper.
    But the real Sumatra wrapper is my all time favourite, tho hard as hell to find now.
    That Sumatra tobacco,esp wrapper...produces a fine spiciness and sweetness that,to me,is unmatched.
    Can almost see and taste that one you're smoking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allusred View Post
    Sumatra, Sumatra...don't hear much about that wrapper.
    But the real Sumatra wrapper is my all time favourite, tho hard as hell to find now.
    That Sumatra tobacco,esp wrapper...produces a fine spiciness and sweetness that,to me,is unmatched.
    Can almost see and taste that one you're smoking.
    Agreed. Most cigars with Sumatra wrappers use Ecuadoran-grown leaves. They're good, but they lack a flavor component found in Indonesian-grown tobaccos. I've found that same component in some Philippine cigars as well, so it seems to be something in the air, water, soil, etc. of that part of the world.

    Luckily the leaves I roll with are Indonesian-grown.

    Romeo y Julieta Cedro deluxe is rolled with an Indonesian-grown Sumatra wrapper, and if I couldn't roll one that tasted as good, I'd buy a lot of them.
    Insert witty comment here ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Lancerolot View Post
    Agreed. Most cigars with Sumatra wrappers use Ecuadoran-grown leaves. They're good, but they lack a flavor component found in Indonesian-grown tobaccos. I've found that same component in some Philippine cigars as well, so it seems to be something in the air, water, soil, etc. of that part of the world.

    Luckily the leaves I roll with are Indonesian-grown.

    Romeo y Julieta Cedro deluxe is rolled with an Indonesian-grown Sumatra wrapper, and if I couldn't roll one that tasted as good, I'd buy a lot of them.
    Everything you wrote in the above post is in line with my thinking. Ecuadorian grown Sumatra wrapper is completely devoid of the flavour I get when smoking a cigar that has the Sumatra Sumatra tobacco. And binder/filler leaf grown in the same locations. The resulting cigars have at least the same degree of unique or distinctly superior flavour/complexity/taste as do Cubans. Different but each uniquely tied to their Geographic location.

    Don't recall ever having smoked a Romeo y Julieta Cedro Deluxe...will fix that oversight very soon.

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