I certainly don't consider myself a vet. I packed a bowl this morn and there was just a little bit of tobacco remaining of this sample, so what did I do? I packed some more, trying to finish off every last shred. Needless to say, it was overpacked. Couldn't get a decent smoke, so I began puffing more. Became very hot but still not much smoke, and not much flavor. Worst bowl I've had to date! Not discouraged though. I know there will be sweet bowls to come as I continue to learn more all the time.