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[droy1958]

How much is to much? The new TAT 15th anni comes in 2 vitolas and are $19 and $21 each. While I enjoy some of their products I cant see these price points on these smokes. Holding out

That's higher than giraffe pu$$y to me, but with hunting, fishing, farming and such I don't have the disposable cash to buy cigars like that.....

[FidelCastro]

That's higher than giraffe pu$$y to me, but with hunting, fishing, farming and such I don't have the disposable cash to buy cigars like that.....

You have hit the upon the reality of life whether it be cigars or cars or anything that we affix a value or worth i.e.
worth the time, money, or effort spent; of value or importance. We tend to follow a definition that others place before us and that usually is marketing and advertising for a product. Billions are spent in the sales of commodities and it is a powerful medium by which to assuage the buyer that what they value can be sold in words/visuals instead of letting the consumer judge for themselves. One of the things I love about this hobby is that Veteran Cigar Smokers aren't easily fooled and they are by nature pretty truthful people and aren't swayed by ads or commercials. There is a passion among us that we search out "truth" in the cigars we smoke and if it's good then we'll smoke it and sometimes it has a cost that we will debate within our own minds....the definition of diminishing returns as the brother mentions is spot on because it's the individual who makes the call. I can afford a pleasure until it costs me more than the investment I put into it and when that happens it has diminished value. There are a few cigars that happen to hurt my wallet but don't decrease in the pleasure of smoking them and should they ever come with a cost that is far too expensive then I guess I'll have to smoke half of what I usually smoke.

Reading threads and posts in Cigar Forums is not just about tobacco and brands but it's a peek into the psychology of who we are and how we perceive the world around us and for generations cigar smokers were judged on a false narrative of being snobbish and obtrusive but in reality as I've noticed for a long time that cigar smokers are people who really know what they like and will tell it like it is. To a lot of those who have a disdain for the tobacco leaf they tend to judge us because of an aroma and a perceived personality of someone who is "cock-sure" about what they like and don't like and that is what makes anti tobacco philosophy so popular where they feel the need to control those around them. If it was really about the threat of second hand smoke etc. why wouldn't they fix the bigger threats of pollution that are around us instead of something so benign as a cigar? Sorry for digressing as it occurred to me while writing this post that I get thoughts that come out of right field on occasion and feel I have to chase it down to a conclusion.

[Brimy]

You have hit the upon the reality of life whether it be cigars or cars or anything that we affix a value or worth i.e.
worth the time, money, or effort spent; of value or importance. We tend to follow a definition that others place before us and that usually is marketing and advertising for a product. Billions are spent in the sales of commodities and it is a powerful medium by which to assuage the buyer that what they value can be sold in words/visuals instead of letting the consumer judge for themselves. One of the things I love about this hobby is that Veteran Cigar Smokers aren't easily fooled and they are by nature pretty truthful people and aren't swayed by ads or commercials. There is a passion among us that we search out "truth" in the cigars we smoke and if it's good then we'll smoke it and sometimes it has a cost that we will debate within our own minds....the definition of diminishing returns as the brother mentions is spot on because it's the individual who makes the call. I can afford a pleasure until it costs me more than the investment I put into it and when that happens it has diminished value. There are a few cigars that happen to hurt my wallet but don't decrease in the pleasure of smoking them and should they ever come with a cost that is far too expensive then I guess I'll have to smoke half of what I usually smoke.

Reading threads and posts in Cigar Forums is not just about tobacco and brands but it's a peek into the psychology of who we are and how we perceive the world around us and for generations cigar smokers were judged on a false narrative of being snobbish and obtrusive but in reality as I've noticed for a long time that cigar smokers are people who really know what they like and will tell it like it is. To a lot of those who have a disdain for the tobacco leaf they tend to judge us because of an aroma and a perceived personality of someone who is "cock-sure" about what they like and don't like and that is what makes anti tobacco philosophy so popular where they feel the need to control those around them. If it was really about the threat of second hand smoke etc. why wouldn't they fix the bigger threats of pollution that are around us instead of something so benign as a cigar? Sorry for digressing as it occurred to me while writing this post that I get thoughts that come out of right field on occasion and feel I have to chase it down to a conclusion.

Well said on all fronts.